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Träumerei #2852238
05/26/19 12:13 AM
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Re: Träumerei [Re: Saurav] #2852262
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Re: Träumerei [Re: Saurav] #2853692
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That was lovely indeed. I recently learned it although not to perfection as you have. It was a little frustrating to me with the double finger changes all over. I got what I needed from it and moved on. Congrats!


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Re: Träumerei [Re: Saurav] #2853859
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This was a very solid performance. Here are are few things I think would improve it:
1. Be a little more careful about which notes should be softer or more to the fore. For example, in the very beginning(and at similar places throughout) after the RH plays C-F the chord that follow should be softer than the first two notes.
2. When there is a written out 3-note rolled chord in the LH followed by a chord in the RH you play the 3 notes and then play the chord. You should play the chord simultaneously with the top note in the LH. Also, start the LH rolled chord a little earlier so that the RH chord come in on the beat.

Re: Träumerei [Re: pianoloverus] #2853894
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
[...] Also, start the LH rolled chord a little earlier so that the RH chord come in on the beat.


My thought on listening to this lovely performance is to play the rolled chords just slightly quicker so that there is less of a delay on reaching the beat.

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Thanks for the feedback. I agree that I consistently slow down the tempo at those notes, and after the first time you can no longer claim "poetic license rubato", if that makes sense. I've worked on that, and it's better than it used to be, but it's hard for me to think about that rolled chord while the other stuff is going on in the right hand. I'll keep working on that.

Re: Träumerei [Re: Saurav] #2856118
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Originally Posted by Saurav
Thanks for the feedback. I agree that I consistently slow down the tempo at those notes, and after the first time you can no longer claim "poetic license rubato", if that makes sense. I've worked on that, and it's better than it used to be, but it's hard for me to think about that rolled chord while the other stuff is going on in the right hand. I'll keep working on that.


You always have poetic license, no matter what. But, if the music is controlling you, rather than you controlling it, I wouldn't call that poetic license...

What makes this piece difficult is all of the intricate inner voices that try to tempt you into ruining the basic simplicity of the music.

As an exercise, you might try playing only one voice in the right hand along with only one voice in the left hand. In other words, never more than two notes at a time. Make it sound as musical as you possibly can.

When you are completely and totally satisfied with that, add the other notes back in, making sure you don't mess up the complete and total perfection of those two voices you have already mastered.

It's all about priorities. If you get overwhelmed because there are too many notes in a chord, it ruins the music, and for no good reason. You're way better off just leaving those notes out and playing something that's actually music. Once that's mastered, put the notes back in.

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Originally Posted by MichaelJK
If you get overwhelmed because there are too many notes in a chord, it ruins the music, and for no good reason. You're way better off just leaving those notes out and playing something that's actually music. Once that's mastered, put the notes back in.



This is excellent advice. It also keeps you from growing frustrated with the piece and ultimately losing interest in it.


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