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Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW #2850912
05/21/19 11:11 PM
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You got a great track of piano going, and in the middle, you make a mistake. You keep on going and finish the piece. You decide to punch in to correct the mistake. When you punch in, you record over the sustain pedal off event, and the notes of the previous measure keep on ringing. Another problem, you punch in, but start playing a millisecond before the measure that you're recording, and the events don't get recorded.

Does anyone with experience have any tips for correcting mistakes?


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Re: Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW [Re: Beakybird] #2850927
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I'd put the punch-in on a different track and a separate VST instance. If you want to loop record, I'd also set the in and out points clear of the pedal events of the punch-in. Then you can slide your new MIDI data onto your original track, and it's just a couple of clicks to edit the pedal data. You could also just leave it on its own track.

Re: Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW [Re: Beakybird] #2851145
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I do the same thing. Record on a separate track a section and then cut & paste the midi data into the original track. Then delete the second track when I'm done.
I do the same with audio especially vocal. I record several takes of audio and merge the best pieces into a finished track and then get rid of the rest.


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Re: Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW [Re: Beakybird] #2851159
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Reaper has a very nice feature called "takes" which can all be recorded on a single track. Very, very convenient.


Re: Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW [Re: Beakybird] #2851177
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Advice really depends on what DAW you're using too.


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Re: Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW [Re: kj85] #2851237
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Originally Posted by kj85
Reaper has a very nice feature called "takes" which can all be recorded on a single track. Very, very convenient.



They all do. but the problem is that the pedal on/off MIDI events can have unwanted consequences depending on whether or not they are within the take boundary.

Re: Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW [Re: johnstaf] #2851273
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Thanks. I'm probably one of the few people that uses Cakewalk. Anyway, I can go into the event view and copy and paste a pedal off event.
Another solution is to do a perfect take like they did in the old days!


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Re: Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW [Re: Beakybird] #2851308
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Why don’t you just edit the wrong note? That’s what I would do in the past. However I have a new ideology now to try and make a perfect take instead smile It helped me a lot in developing discipline and improve my technique. Although I could never execute a perfect take for some pieces frown

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Re: Punching in DP MIDI with your DAW [Re: johnstaf] #2851354
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Originally Posted by johnstaf
They all do.

I own three separate DAWs and don't know where this function is in two of them. In Reaper, it was as simple as recording again on the same track.

Originally Posted by johnstaf
the problem is that the pedal on/off MIDI events can have unwanted consequences depending on whether or not they are within the take boundary.

Reaper shows CC messages separately in the midi editor. Other DAWs should offer similar functionality. I think that should allow for editing pedal events.

Once you are dealing with multiple takes, you are going to have to do some editing in any case.


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