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Roland FP-30 buzzing #2851073
05/22/19 10:52 AM
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Hi Everyone!
I plugged my FP-30 to the Mackie passive volume controler which is connected to my monitor speakers by the 3.5mm cable and I discovered strange buzzing. I recorded that issue using recorder Zoom H4n, close to the monitor membrane:
https://soundcloud.com/rychubil/fp-30-buzzing
Any one to had similar issues? Any one know, what can be the reason?


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Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: RichieBill] #2851086
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To me that sounds like electromagnetic interference caused by some sort of radio transmission (possibly WiFi); the sound itself reminds me of modems of ye olden days. The noise seemed to happen in two separate packages. My immediate thought is that we're observing electronic communication between devices following a protocol including distinct packages of data.


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Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: RichieBill] #2851091
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A USB cable near the audio cable or some other data cable causing interference?

Just a wild guess. I really have no idea.

Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: clothearednincompo] #2851099
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Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
A USB cable near the audio cable or some other data cable causing interference?

Yes, scored!
I unplugged USB cable, which was connected to the computer's sound card and the issue disappeared.
Thank you smile

Last edited by RichieBill; 05/22/19 11:45 AM.

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Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: RichieBill] #2851105
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Originally Posted by RichieBill
Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
A USB cable near the audio cable or some other data cable causing interference?

Yes, scored!
I unplugged USB cable, which was connected to the computer's sound card and the issue disappeared.
Thank you smile

Not sure if it does anything, but I only use shielded USB cables around my audio equipment and DP (in fact, all my cables around audio equipment and DP are shielded, no matter what they are for). Usually by either an aluminum or aluminum alloy sheath. I figure since I haven't experienced any leakages, it at least didn't hurt.


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Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2851115
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by RichieBill
Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
A USB cable near the audio cable or some other data cable causing interference?

Yes, scored!
I unplugged USB cable, which was connected to the computer's sound card and the issue disappeared.
Thank you smile

... I only use shielded USB cables around my audio equipment and DP ... I figure since I haven't experienced any leakages ...

Can you show me please any good example of shielded USB cable (Amazon or other)? I am not sure which kind of I use.


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Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: RichieBill] #2851120
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Originally Posted by RichieBill
Can you show me please any good example of shielded USB cable (Amazon or other)? I am not sure which kind of I use.

There are tons available on Amazon. Search for shielded USB cable and check descriptions and customer reviews.


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"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
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Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: QuasiUnaFantasia] #2851122
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Originally Posted by QuasiUnaFantasia
To me that sounds like electromagnetic interference caused by some sort of radio transmission (possibly WiFi); the sound itself reminds me of modems of ye olden days. The noise seemed to happen in two separate packages. My immediate thought is that we're observing electronic communication between devices following a protocol including distinct packages of data.


+1. USB cable? Ethernet cable ?

It _doesn't_ sound like a ground loop, or anything similar to a ground loop.

Some ferrite chokes on the connecting cables might help. Electronic supply houses have them; I don't know if they're available through normal retail "hi-fi" or "music store" channels.


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Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: RichieBill] #2851157
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Originally Posted by RichieBill
Yes, scored!


Yay! laugh

Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: RichieBill] #2851189
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All cables are shielded ... so long as you stay away from the dollar store cables, or ones sold online for stupid low prices.
Originally Posted by RichieBill
Can you show me please any good example of shielded USB cable (Amazon or other)?

Re: Roland FP-30 buzzing [Re: MacMacMac] #2851200
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
All cables are shielded ... so long as you stay away from the dollar store cables, or ones sold online for stupid low prices.
Originally Posted by RichieBill
Can you show me please any good example of shielded USB cable (Amazon or other)?


I think, rather I have shielded USB cable, cause I've paid 15 GBP for 5m one.


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