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6.5.0 (2019/05/15) Improvement of hammer noise model in all instruments, providing more edge to the attacks. Small improvement of the string resonances in all instruments. Revoicing of Steinway D and Bechstein DG grand pianos. Kremsegg collection default range set to full range (21:108). German translation of the manual. Keyboard shortcut added for saving/restoring window configurations. A warning is displayed when duplicated MIDI events are received. Reverb switch entry added in the freeze filter. Trim manually recording MIDI files in the standalone to remove any silence at the beginning.
Roland FP-90; Pianoteq 6 + many add-ons; 2 Yamaha HS8s; ATH-M50X and Samson SR850 headphones; Xenyx Q802USB interface. 2; I make a living playing a Yamaha PSR-S970 with FBT Maxx 2a's, Crowne Headset Mic. I also play guitar.
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I just upgraded myself to 6.5 on Mac OSX a few minutes ago and something strange is happening. The exact MIDI file which I saved of my ABF quarterly recital performance plays normally through 6.4, but in 6.5, it plays twice as fast. How can I slow it back down again? Is there a way to do a hard reset in Pianoteq?
![[Linked Image]](http://forum.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/12282.png) across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Check your sequence duration Ty - top part of the main window just under the 6.5.0 heading. Should be set to x1 - also I assume the recording wasn't changed originally (speed wise)?
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I just upgraded myself to 6.5 on Mac OSX a few minutes ago and something strange is happening. The exact MIDI file which I saved of my ABF quarterly recital performance plays normally through 6.4, but in 6.5, it plays twice as fast. How can I slow it back down again? Is there a way to do a hard reset in Pianoteq? It's a new feature. In these modern times, people don't have time to listen to music at normal speed. 
Roland FP-90; Pianoteq 6 + many add-ons; 2 Yamaha HS8s; ATH-M50X and Samson SR850 headphones; Xenyx Q802USB interface. 2; I make a living playing a Yamaha PSR-S970 with FBT Maxx 2a's, Crowne Headset Mic. I also play guitar.
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Check your sequence duration Ty - top part of the main window just under the 6.5.0 heading. Should be set to x1 - also I assume the recording wasn't changed originally (speed wise)? Thanks! That was exactly it. I never noticed that before. I wonder why when I install 6.5.0 it immediately defaulted to 2x? Makes me worry about other settings. How can I do a hard reset with Pianoteq and wipe out all nonvolatile, saved settings? For example, I am looking at the velocity curve graph, and I see it also is bizarre. Like the config files got corrupted during the installation. It's a new feature. In these modern times, people don't have time to listen to music at normal speed.  
![[Linked Image]](http://forum.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/12282.png) across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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How can I do a hard reset with Pianoteq and wipe out all nonvolatile, saved settings? For example, I am looking at the velocity curve graph, and I see it also is bizarre. Like the config files got corrupted during the installation.
I haven't done this, if someone else has please do chime in, but if you look under Preferences and then General there is a Folders area where all presets are kept. I assume if you delete the contents PTQ should rebuild these from scratch but I've never tried it so cannot vouch - worst case scenario remove all files and packages and re-install I guess..
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How can I do a hard reset with Pianoteq and wipe out all nonvolatile, saved settings? For example, I am looking at the velocity curve graph, and I see it also is bizarre. Like the config files got corrupted during the installation.
I haven't done this, if someone else has please do chime in, but if you look under Preferences and then General there is a Folders area where all presets are kept. I assume if you delete the contents PTQ should rebuild these from scratch but I've never tried it so cannot vouch - worst case scenario remove all files and packages and re-install I guess.. Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Remove everything and reinstall from scratch. Just need to hunt down all the preferences file locations on Mac OSX.
![[Linked Image]](http://forum.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/12282.png) across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Remove everything and reinstall from scratch. Just need to hunt down all the preferences file locations on Mac OSX.
Did not work. Even deleted a file which was called preferences plist. However after reinstalling Pianoteq, all the preferences were exactly as before and I know that's not correct. For example, instead of starting with Steinway D, it shows my favorite piano, C. Bechstein. Obviously there is a preference file hiding somewhere with that on OSX.
![[Linked Image]](http://forum.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/12282.png) across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Tell Modart about this. They'll come out with an update within a week. I don't experience this bug. What do people think of the sound ?
Roland FP-90; Pianoteq 6 + many add-ons; 2 Yamaha HS8s; ATH-M50X and Samson SR850 headphones; Xenyx Q802USB interface. 2; I make a living playing a Yamaha PSR-S970 with FBT Maxx 2a's, Crowne Headset Mic. I also play guitar.
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Tell Modart about this. They'll come out with an update within a week. I don't experience this bug. What do people think of the sound ? There is discussion in this thread about how 6.5 sounds.
![[Linked Image]](http://forum.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/12282.png) across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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What do people think of the sound ?
Some of my Bechstein presets are now far too treble-rich, so I'll have to edit those, but others are better than before. I haven't tested the Steinway D much, but so far it seems better. Not much difference on the Grotrian. Generally I am pleased, although the alleged feature of restoring window positions does not seem to work out of the box for me.
Roland FP-30, Roland E-28 Synthogy Ivory II Studio Grands, Production Voices Estate Grand, Garritan CFX Lite, Pianoteq 7.0 (Blüthner, Bechstein DG, Grotrian, Steinway D, K2)
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Some of my Bechstein presets are now far too treble-rich, so I'll have to edit those. Tried your curves today, Quasi (6.5), the Bechstein sounds more metallic, not less. Not Woodier.
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Some of my Bechstein presets are now far too treble-rich, so I'll have to edit those. Tried your curves today, Quasi (6.5), the Bechstein sounds more metallic, not less. Not Woodier. We must have different views on what "metallic" means with respect to piano sound. My velocity curves avoid the loud end of the sound spectrum, and the loud end is where the sound is at its most metallic (from my point of view.)
Roland FP-30, Roland E-28 Synthogy Ivory II Studio Grands, Production Voices Estate Grand, Garritan CFX Lite, Pianoteq 7.0 (Blüthner, Bechstein DG, Grotrian, Steinway D, K2)
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I make up pop songs, and I like the bright sound of the Bechstein Prelude. I just bought it in fact.
I hadn't tried Pianoteq's electric pianos in a long time, and I really felt like I had thrown my money out the window when I had purchased it, but a month ago, I played it, and I found the realism very compelling.
I play the guitar too, and I have so many Pianoteq instruments, I'll never play them all. But I bought the Bechstein because I found it inspiring.
Roland FP-90; Pianoteq 6 + many add-ons; 2 Yamaha HS8s; ATH-M50X and Samson SR850 headphones; Xenyx Q802USB interface. 2; I make a living playing a Yamaha PSR-S970 with FBT Maxx 2a's, Crowne Headset Mic. I also play guitar.
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Hmmm, maybe we have different ears. You hear a Steinway when I hear bongos. Your posted 6.4 FP30 curves sound just the same in 6.5 to you, then?
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Hmmm, maybe we have different ears. You hear a Steinway when I hear bongos. Your posted 6.4 FP30 curves sound just the same in 6.5 to you, then? Yes, more or less. I haven't tested them specifically for changes with respect to the metallicness, but nothing stood out when I used them earlier today. There are some sound differences, but I see them as primarily to do with equalization and not the velocity curves.
Roland FP-30, Roland E-28 Synthogy Ivory II Studio Grands, Production Voices Estate Grand, Garritan CFX Lite, Pianoteq 7.0 (Blüthner, Bechstein DG, Grotrian, Steinway D, K2)
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Interesting. Maybe the difference in perception is something to do with our different transducers. Haven't tried it with phones yet, just the speakers. If tranducers does make a difference to the perceived sound of a particular curve, kind of makes a mockery of the PTQ forum's list of curves. At least, for instruments that require external speakers, like ours.
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[quote=Tyrone Slothrop] Did not work. Even deleted a file which was called preferences plist. However after reinstalling Pianoteq, all the preferences were exactly as before and I know that's not correct. For example, instead of starting with Steinway D, it shows my favorite piano, C. Bechstein. Obviously there is a preference file hiding somewhere with that on OSX. Okay - just removed and re-installed mine and all my saved presets etc. all gone (no biggie here for me as I tinker around with PTQ) - here's what I did: 1) Applications/Pianoteq 6/Uninstall (followed the step by step wizard and once finished I emptied out the trash, logically  2) In Terminal I used the: defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles true and then the killall Finder commands to enable all system hidden folders...(not sure why this is but in my case I had to run the above commands twice in order to see the hidden folders/files) 3) In my home folder I deleted the Modartt folder under Library/Application Support/Modartt 4) Re-installed and activated PTQ 6.5 - et voila! Optional steps (if you want to not display system hidden files/folders): In terminal run (again twice as it does not work the first time around for me): defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles false killall Finder
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I think I'll wait before I d/l this latest incarnation . . .
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I think I'll wait before I d/l this latest incarnation . . . That's fair...my doing was effectively lose all and start afresh...
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