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Re: Would you buy a Yamaha N2 today? [Re: ando] #2848643
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Originally Posted by ando
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There will be no N2X.

Sure there will - if only to make sense of the gap between n1x and n3x. Yamaha just likes to take their time. There's (some) method in their madness.

The problem, at least for me, is the form factor or size of the N1X is too big compared to an upright, so there’s a gap there to be filled in the market, unless Yamaha think it’s plugged with the CLP series.

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Re: Would you buy a Yamaha N2 today? [Re: spanishbuddha] #2848647
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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
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There will be no N2X.

Sure there will - if only to make sense of the gap between n1x and n3x. Yamaha just likes to take their time. There's (some) method in their madness.

The problem, at least for me, is the form factor or size of the N1X is too big.


Actually that was another factor in favor of N2 vs N1X for me. Size. I live in Japan where houses are generally quite small (especially in central Tokyo), so every inch you can save matters. And in general esthetically speaking I like the N2 better than the N1X.

Re: Would you buy a Yamaha N2 today? [Re: Kawai James] #2848651
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Congrats!

I expect you may be referring to "TransAcoustic" - which is the name of Yamaha's acoustic instruments with silencing and soundboard amplification features. Kawai "AnytimeX" and "AURES" instrument offer the same functionality.

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Thank you.

And yes, I think that was it, although I couldn't swear it. Is it a recent technology? I remember the silecing thing has been there for a while but I don't recall having heard about the TransAcoustic thing before.

But well, I have never been much of a technical person when it comes to pianos. For me they have always been just things with black and white keys that can be source of both great pleasure and great frustration. smile

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Originally Posted by thomscot
Originally Posted by Kawai James
Congrats!

I expect you may be referring to "TransAcoustic" - which is the name of Yamaha's acoustic instruments with silencing and soundboard amplification features. Kawai "AnytimeX" and "AURES" instrument offer the same functionality.

Kind regards,
James
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Thank you.

And yes, I think that was it, although I couldn't swear it. Is it a recent technology? I remember the silecing thing has been there for a while but I don't recall having heard about the TransAcoustic thing before.

But well, I have never been much of a technical person when it comes to pianos. For me they have always been just things with black and white keys that can be source of both great pleasure and great frustration. smile


The Yamaha TransAcoustic pianos are cool, and expensive. Basically, two devices, called transducers, are mounted to the piano’s soundboard in order to play back digitally generated sounds. Voilà, no speakers required, the soundboard becomes a speaker! It is a regular acoustic piano, with hammers and strings.

Here is a review:



If my wife is adamant that we should not own both an upright and a keyboard when I decide to get an acoustic piano then a TransAcoustic will be put on my list of alternatives.

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Re: Would you buy a Yamaha N2 today? [Re: thomscot] #2848699
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Originally Posted by thomscot
Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
Originally Posted by ando
Originally Posted by Pete14
There will be no N2X.
Sure there will - if only to make sense of the gap between n1x and n3x. Yamaha just likes to take their time. There's (some) method in their madness.
The problem, at least for me, is the form factor or size of the N1X is too big.
Actually that was another factor in favor of N2 vs N1X for me. Size. I live in Japan where houses are generally quite small (especially in central Tokyo), so every inch you can save matters. And in general esthetically speaking I like the N2 better than the N1X.

I have a Tokyo-size flat in Washington DC! So to fit my new N1X, I will literally be hiring an interior designer to reorganize my space and replace some of my furniture. It will take 4-6 weeks in total. (Part of my piano commitment! grin )


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Re: Would you buy a Yamaha N2 today? [Re: thomscot] #2848716
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It seems like the N1X is holding up just fine against the NV10 (never mind its lower price).
So let’s say that Yamaha ends up releasing an N2X similarly priced to the NV10; could the N1X and the N2X unite forces to slowly corral the vulnerable NV10 and consequently destroy it?
Unless, of course, the NV20 shows up to save the day.

Re: Would you buy a Yamaha N2 today? [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2848717
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I have a Tokyo-size flat in Washington DC! So to fit my new N1X, I will literally be hiring an interior designer to reorganize my space and replace some of my furniture. It will take 4-6 weeks in total. (Part of my piano commitment! grin )


I live in a relatively small one bedroom in New York City.

To truly figure out what we’re each dealing with in terms of space, we’ll need to mention sizes, lol.

The real estate listing claims my apartment is 800 square feet. I have lived in a 425 sq ft studio. Every inch matters.

In Japan, isn’t the measurement by number of tatami mats?


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Re: Would you buy a Yamaha N2 today? [Re: thomscot] #2848719
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I agree that every inch matters, so yes, “we’ll need to mention sizes!”

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I love the size of the N2. The N1, N1X is a little bit too big for me.

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Not that I'd say no to an N1X, mind you!

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Originally Posted by johnstaf
I love the size of the N2. The N1, N1X is a little bit too big for me.

I wonder why the N1/N1X is bigger (deeper) than the N2 - I guess it must be something to do with speaker positioning

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Originally Posted by percy64
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I love the size of the N2. The N1, N1X is a little bit too big for me.

I wonder why the N1/N1X is bigger (deeper) than the N2 - I guess it must be something to do with speaker positioning


I was thinking the same. It's a shame they don't make a version with no speakers at all, or at least the smallest the action would allow.

Re: Would you buy a Yamaha N2 today? [Re: LarryK] #2850158
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Originally Posted by LarryK
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I have a Tokyo-size flat in Washington DC! So to fit my new N1X, I will literally be hiring an interior designer to reorganize my space and replace some of my furniture. It will take 4-6 weeks in total. (Part of my piano commitment! grin )


In Japan, isn’t the measurement by number of tatami mats?


Yes it generally is, although nowadays most of the time you find both tatami and square meters. Usually they use tatami for the single rooms and express the area of the whole house in square meters.

Currently I live in a flat that is overall about 475 square feet. The room where the piano will go is about 175. It's the main and only room after all, excluding kitchen and restroom.

The funny part is that this is by far the BIGGEST flat I have ever lived in in Japan. (The smallest being 205 square feet). But I always had a (digital) piano.

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Originally Posted by thomscot
Originally Posted by LarryK
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I have a Tokyo-size flat in Washington DC! So to fit my new N1X, I will literally be hiring an interior designer to reorganize my space and replace some of my furniture. It will take 4-6 weeks in total. (Part of my piano commitment! grin )


In Japan, isn’t the measurement by number of tatami mats?


Yes it generally is, although nowadays most of the time you find both tatami and square meters. Usually they use tatami for the single rooms and express the area of the whole house in square meters.

Currently I live in a flat that is overall about 475 square feet. The room where the piano will go is about 175. It's the main and only room after all, excluding kitchen and restroom.

The funny part is that this is by far the BIGGEST flat I have ever lived in in Japan. (The smallest being 205 square feet). But I always had a (digital) piano.


Most Americans are living in houses that range from 2000 to 5000 square feet. Somehow they still can’t store all their stuff at home so they rent storage units! Crazy.

It’s all I can do to maintain 800 square feet. The 425 square foot studio I lived in was intelligently laid out, in the 1930s, with windows in the kitchen, bathroom, and living room. Back then, I was playing the violin, but there is always room for a small piano, as you know.

One important thing for me is to live in a unit with two exposures, so you get cross ventilation. That means corner apartments. My current place, also built in the 1930s, has two exposures. Every apartment in my building has two exposures, except for some of the studios. They don’t build like that anymore.

I could always use one more room, though. My old Russian violin teacher told me that a farmer with one cow is not jealous of a farmer with one hundred cows, he is jealous of the farmer with two cows.


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