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Takayama Piano #2848122
05/14/19 04:05 PM
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Hi
While I was shopping for a new piano I can across a new Japanese piano called Takayama. It has also on the side (Japanese Technology). The dealer claims that this is a new Japanese brand that is being distributed world wide. He also said it is as good as Yamaha and Kawai and for almost half the price for a brand new piano with fancy finish and larger/taller cabinet and adjustable bench.

I have been looking for reviews online or any information about this manufacturer, I couldn't find any.

Does anyone here has any information on this piano?

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Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848127
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You can go to their website: http://takayamapiano.com/

It looks like they do not distribute in the US. It is not new. They started in 1984.

Last edited by TomLC; 05/14/19 04:24 PM.

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Re: Takayama Piano [Re: TomLC] #2848131
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Thanks for sharing the website. Yet, it looks very basic and has broken links to their social media. It is weird that they are in the market since 1984 and couldn't find any review on them anywhere! I couldn't even find the website!

Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848142
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Wow, going to that link I saw their green and environmental piano with a color pattern that looked kinda camouflage. Wow!
It’s really different for sure.


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Re: Takayama Piano [Re: j&j] #2848144
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It looks very fishy and not professional at all! Check the pictures of celebrity and tours all has Chinese text and not Japanese!

Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848148
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A little internet research comes up with this very possibly being a private label on a cheap Chinese piano. I would be very surprised if there is a new Japanese piano manufacturer that no one here seems to have heard of, and as noted their website is super sketchy. Their case it not helped by the fact that their listed address is the Takayama Green Hotel...

If no one on this forum vouches for it, I would run away, very fast. In that case, at the least, it seems like the dealer is not being very honest with you and I don't know that I would continue to do business with them.


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Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848153
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Well yeah the English sounds like Google translater. It does seem fishy. Perhaps a stencil brand with a Japanese sounding name vs. a German sounding name. The comparison to Yamahas and Kawai pianos seems to be a give away.


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Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848158
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“TAKAYAMA Piano Company was founded in 1984, and it is situated in Gifu County in Japan, which is known as an important city of good quality wood production especially for making pianos. Takayama is a Sino-foreign joint venture for producing pianos.”
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I’d run the other way. Fast. Very Fast.


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Re: Takayama Piano [Re: j&j] #2848163
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Originally Posted by j&j
Sino-foreign joint venture for producing pianos


I missed that! Yep, cheap Chinese piano being relabeled by an exporter who has an "office" (po box?) in a hotel...


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Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Chrispy] #2848279
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Originally Posted by Chrispy
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Sino-foreign joint venture for producing pianos


I missed that! Yep, cheap Chinese piano being relabeled by an exporter who has an "office" (po box?) in a hotel...


Thanks! I checked the address on google maps, yes it is a hotel address. I also found that the phone number doesn't exist and the area code in the number is for Nagoya which is 150+ KM from the address on the website! A very cheap scam website!

Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848670
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In the "How we make it" section, the link title, Part 1, became "Patr1". If this is an indicator of their attention to detail, it doesn't bode well. All in all, this has the smell of week old fish on a sunny dock.

Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848709
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Originally Posted by Rash
It looks very fishy and not professional at all! Check the pictures of celebrity and tours all has Chinese text and not Japanese!


If you check the pictures you are referring to, you can see that the name of the Chinese company manufacturing this piano (Huapu Piano Co., Ltd.).

The same pictures is used on both Takayama piano website and their website http://www.huapupiano.com/
. Actually, the Takayama piano website uses all the pictures and similar structure.The files even have the same names.

In the below pics you can see that the people on the table are Chinese and the name of the Chinese manufacturer.



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http://takayamapiano.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/xy7.jpg


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Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848721
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Originally Posted by Rash
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Sino-foreign joint venture for producing pianos


I missed that! Yep, cheap Chinese piano being relabeled by an exporter who has an "office" (po box?) in a hotel...


Thanks! I checked the address on google maps, yes it is a hotel address. I also found that the phone number doesn't exist and the area code in the number is for Nagoya which is 150+ KM from the address on the website! A very cheap scam website!


They seem to be a multinational company!!! hehe !!! They have two locations in Japan, one in China and their website is registered on go daddy from Amman, Jordan!!

http://whois.domaintools.com/takayamapiano.com

https://bit.ly/2JRI8Gn

Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848723
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Everyone has fun with this detective work ! cool

Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848798
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Still, it's a lot of work to put together a piano, even a crappy one. What I don't understand is if they're going to go to all that effort anyway, why not do it right? crazy


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What I would like now is for someone to write in and
say yes they have this piano and it's great !

Re: Takayama Piano [Re: Rash] #2848998
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Unfortunately it takes a lot more person hours and higher end materials to do it right. Also, it takes more time to do proper factory final prep before shipping to do it right. There is a market for new crappy pianos and some manufacturers will meet that demand.


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Originally Posted by DPCK
Originally Posted by Rash
Originally Posted by Chrispy
Originally Posted by j&j
Sino-foreign joint venture for producing pianos


I missed that! Yep, cheap Chinese piano being relabeled by an exporter who has an "office" (po box?) in a hotel...


Thanks! I checked the address on google maps, yes it is a hotel address. I also found that the phone number doesn't exist and the area code in the number is for Nagoya which is 150+ KM from the address on the website! A very cheap scam website!


They seem to be a multinational company!!! hehe !!! They have two locations in Japan, one in China and their website is registered on go daddy from Amman, Jordan!!

http://whois.domaintools.com/takayamapiano.com

https://bit.ly/2JRI8Gn


This explains it all, as I saw it at Freddy for Music in Amman/Jordan. Apparently, this is his private label trying to convince people that it is a Japanese piano in a very unprofessional way!

I also double checked the partners page to see if someone else from those claimed partners is carrying it, the list doesn't have any email or website and most of the names are not accurate and once you google them nothing is showed up. Apparently, the whole website is fake!

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Originally Posted by j&j
Unfortunately it takes a lot more person hours and higher end materials to do it right. Also, it takes more time to do proper factory final prep before shipping to do it right. There is a market for new crappy pianos and some manufacturers will meet that demand.


There is no problem selling crappy pianos for low price to meet the demand in that market. However, these manufacturers and dealers try to play the German/Japanese name game to cheat and sell their products at higher prices and position themselves in the upper market!

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Yes one does not often hear Chinese makers using Japanese
names. It is usually German ?

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