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Are there any nice looking humidifiers? #2847723
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My question has more to do with aesthetics than anything. I know I need to add a humidifier, so you don't need to sell me on that. I need something that will work for the whole room and not just create a microclimate for the piano itself. I'm trying to find a good one that will accentuate my music room instead of making it look cheap.

I live in southeast Washington State, an area that is extremely dry pretty much year round. Our outside air humidity goes up a little in the winter, but it's still pretty dry compared to most everywhere else. Last week we averaged 15% RH outside, and 25% in the house. I've just sold our old gray market Kawai (Model 600 from 1961), which had slightly slipping pins from age plus years in dry conditions. My new Boston Performance is coming next week, and I'm finally getting on top of the RH in my music room. Currently we've got a warm mist room humidifier running in there to get the RH up where it ought to be, but I want that unit back in my bedroom (we run two of them every night). I'm looking for a good room humidifier to permanently sit in my music room - my new 6'4" Boston will be joining a concert grand harp, a cello, and a couple of acoustic guitars. They all need the improved RH, so I'm not interested in a Dampp-Chaser that only affects the piano. The issue I'm running into is that most of the recommended humidifiers are kind of ugly. From the website photos, the Venta looks industrial and cheaply plastic. Would it still be effective if it's hidden behind some plants in a corner? That's really the only place in the room where it wouldn't be visible. The newest Boneco looks nicer, but it's more modern than I want in a room full of classy acoustic instruments. I've seen a few pretty ultrasonic humidifiers online (like the Objecto W4 - http://www.objecto.com/shop/w4-hybrid-humidifier), but I'm not sure how effective they would be in a really dry environment, and I'd rather not dust twice a day to avoid the white powder issue. Am I the only pianist who cares about the aesthetics of my humidifier, or can anyone recommend something that will work well AND look nice?

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Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: ryannah05] #2847735
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Is a whole house system, tied into heating/AC, out of the question?

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Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: ryannah05] #2847737
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We use Sharp air purifiers & humidifiers in our house. They are everywhere in Japan, including some hotel rooms.

We purchased them because they are the quietest we found at low setting.

The industrial engineering and production quality is excellent. One of our units gets noisier when the air filter is clogged and needs replacement (this is a complaint on some review sites).

We like the design also, as it is slimline and disappears into the room.

With all humidifiers you need to be hyper vigilant to keep the water clean for health and safety.

This is a good summary of the Sharp units:

http://www.air-purifier-power.com/sharp-air-purifier.html

That site also has instructions for cheap DIY filter replacements. That is a bit of a hack, does not filter so well, and is not so much cheaper over the long run as the OEM filters provide a massive amount of filter material in a small space. Still a good option if you find the replacement air filters too expensive.

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If your water has high calcium, for example, you can try filtered water to reduce the amount of residue distributed around the room by a humidifier.

Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: iLaw] #2847739
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Originally Posted by iLaw
Is a whole house system, tied into heating/AC, out of the question?

Larry.



Would a whole house system work with the AC? I thought they only tie into the furnace. Our climate is even dryer in the summer than in the winter.

Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: ryannah05] #2847741
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My question has more to do with aesthetics than anything. I know I need to add a humidifier, so you don't need to sell me on that. I need something that will work for the whole room and not just create a microclimate for the piano itself. I'm trying to find a good one that will accentuate my music room instead of making it look cheap.


Are you aware of the different types of humidifiers? And the different effects of them? Particularly that some types spray the minerals from the water all over your room9s)?


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Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: wouter79] #2847743
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Originally Posted by wouter79
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Are you aware of the different types of humidifiers? And the different effects of them? Particularly that some types spray the minerals from the water all over your room9s)?


That's the white dust I'm trying to avoid with ultrasonic humidifiers.

Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: ryannah05] #2847745
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I haven't used one, but was thinking of trying one of these next winter:
Pedestal Humidifier


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Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: ryannah05] #2847753
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As far as I know whole house humidifiers only work with heating and not with AC.

I have an aircare MA1201, it works very well but is fairly ugly.


How about this one from the same brand?

AIRCARE EP9 800 Digital Whole-House Pedestal-Style Evaporative Humidifier, Espresso

$139 on Amazon with great reviews


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Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: ryannah05] #2847761
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My Aprilaire whole house ties into an A/C duct and uses the A/C return. FYI, in my northern NJ home in the winter I still get down to 22 percent. I have a grand damp chaser as well, though.

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You can't beat a whole house system when it comes to concealing it. And if you're already running them in multiple rooms, and have all those instruments, then it might be the logical path forward for you.



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Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: ryannah05] #2847780
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Have you looked into Venta Airwasher humidifiers:

Venta Airwasher

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They come in black or white. I use three of them in a single-storey, 1600 sq. ft. townhouse, and they work very well at humidifying during the winter months.

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Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: BruceD] #2847784
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Have you looked into Venta Airwasher humidifiers:

Venta Airwasher

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They come in black or white. I use three of them in a single-storey, 1600 sq. ft. townhouse, and they work very well at humidifying during the winter months.

Regards,


I read mixed reviews of this model, with some people saying that it did not humidify well. I'm trying to figure out if I should upgrade my current Venta, which has a canister filter, for this one, that has rotating plastic wheels and no filter. Mine is an ultrasonic and I don't know what you call this one. What level of humidity can you maintain with this model? Where are you located? I'm in New York and try to keep the humidity at around 45% during the winter months.


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Re: Are there any nice looking humidifiers? [Re: ryannah05] #2847788
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Originally Posted by ryannah05

Would a whole house system work with the AC? I thought they only tie into the furnace. Our climate is even dryer in the summer than in the winter.



My whole house system works year round. In the Midwest it obviously spends most of the summer dehumidifying, but if the indoor thermostat/hygrometer says the indoor air needs additional moisture, the humidifier kicks it in automatically.

Larry.

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We have a central humidifier on our HVAC system, but I also have to use a small ultrasonic humidifier in my piano room because when it's really cold here in the winter I can't keep the whole house at a high enough humidity or all the windows condense water. I bought this ultrasonic unit to keep in my piano room and it's pretty decent looking. I have to use distilled water in it to avoid the dust problem. Whatever you decide to buy, make sure it has an automatic humidity control, some don't have that feature. One thing I don't like about mine is I have to take the tank off to fill it up, which is a pain. I'll probably buy something to replace it that's more user friendly and will probably switch to a cool mist humidifier to avoid the dust problem. The problem with the mist style is that they are louder, mine is so quiet I really can't hear it at all.


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This one looks nice smile

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This one looks nice smile

https://tinyurl.com/yybyzzcc

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We use this model> I think it looks pretty good.
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I've been dinging around with humidifiers in my small room for my recorders, cello and piano for about 15 years. I've started with a small airwasher. It was expensive, it had to be good right? It's neither a good air cleaner nor a a good humidifier. This room is about 150 sq. ft. A bedroom sized studio. The Airwasher couldn't keep up with the furnace. If the furnace was on, the RH would just keep dropping, albeit a little slower when the Airwasher was on. Unless it's changed, the airwasher is passive and manual. There is no control to tell it to go up to 40 r.h. and stop. If it doesn't want to take the room above 30%, you can't make it. If it wants to take the room to 50% you can't stop it without turning it off.

I had a cool mist for a few years with the fan and the donut wick with a built in controller. Too loud and those wicks are just GROSS. It cost about $90 a year ($15 about every two months) to keep a sort of clean one in it.

I had 3 ultrasonics. The first, a Homedics lasted less than two years. Then I spent $240 on a Air-O-Swiss (Actually Venta) branded ultrasonic. After about a year I began to feel like the room was swampy feeling even when set to 40 perecent. I bought 2 hygrometers to check the room. It was at 70%! I talked to Venta. They sent a new unit under warranty. It did the same thing out of the box. Venta told me it was something I was doing or the water or something and they had nothing more to offer me.

I did some reading* and decided on a cheap Vicks Steamer $15.00, and a stand-alone controller about $35.00 from Amazon. It's quiet (ish) not silent but there's no whirring fan. If I'm playing I can't hear it turn on and off. There's no bacteria because the water has been boiled before the vapor goes into the room. There are NO cartridges, filters or stick doohickeys to buy on a regular basis. There's a small amount of mineral fallout right under the steamer. It takes weeks to become noticeable and wipes off with a dry rag. It does not permeate and spread through the whole room like the ultrasonic dust.

If the steamer fails, a replacement is available at any pharmacy, Sam's, Target etc for $20 dollars. If the controller fails, you still have humidity that you can watch with a small hygrometer until a new controller comes.

My total outlay was about $60. That's a per year cost of about 20 dollars and I expect to get more years out of it. I was spending $20 on the scale cartridges for the Venta 4x a year. The only thing I've done to it besides wipe away the very little amount of mineral precipitate, is to clean it once internally with vinegar to quiet down the gurgling and restore the steam output.


Does it look cool? No, it looks like a white and blue mushroom. In my room, I don't care.

I think given your requirement, you should do a whole house system. Failing that, for the music room, my advice is keep it simple, reliable and cheap.

Kurt

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My total outlay was about $60. That's a per year cost of about 20 dollars and I expect to get more years out of it.

I could only find power consumption for generic steamers, and they were listed as 250W. So if it ran 24 hours a day and power cost is $0.12/kwh, it will cost $0.72 per day or $263/year in power. Depending on your climate it probably only runs a third or half the year, but that's still quite expensive. There's no cheap way to boil water. For comparison, ultrasonics use about 25W and cool mist about 50W.


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