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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: pianosuzemn] #2847567
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Originally Posted by pianosuzemn
... He says things like "I'm hoping it'll be by the end of the month.". He has 50% of the quoted cost already and I feel like I'm just totally stuck. ...

I've never had work like this done on a piano, is there a written contract?


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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: MarkL] #2847583
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Yes, there is a contract with a list of each thing the restorer will do--itemized. The contract says that 50% was due on initiation of the project, and another 50% when it's completed. I'm going to try to just cool my heals---and visit my father at some point! Thank you to everyone who's vicariously going through this with me!


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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: pianosuzemn] #2895606
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It arrived!

My mother's 1906 Steinway upright "vertegrand" piano is now in my living room! It is absolutely amazing. It's so much better than my Kawai "institutional upright" piano....the sound is so much more nuanced. The repeated notes are much faster, and I can actually play scales so much faster. I can play much quieter and the resonance instantly sounded like the sound of my memories. It has a much more mellow sound than my Kawai which I am already adjusted to! A couple of things:

1) It is harder to press the keys down than what I'm used to. I think this is what makes it easier to control the nuances of sound but with my arthritic fingers it's a little bit harder and I need to be careful.
---Is this the action? Is this something I should let my technician adjust? Or should I just leave it alone?

2) A few of the notes are reverberating or "twanging" and I'm wondering how long I should wait before I get my person here to tune the piano. It just arrived 2 days ago, after being in the moving truck for 2 weeks.

Finally, just an observation: I am so so glad that I didn't get the wood refinished or buffed or anything. Everything else about the piano is new but with the worn areas, it definitely still feels like my mother's piano and the piano I grew up with. If that had been made to look new as well, I think it wouldn't have the same sentimental meaning.

Thank you to everyone. I know I've put you through the ringer too, with originally not even planning on going through with this restoration at all, and now I'm so very glad that I did!


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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: pianosuzemn] #2895613
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Originally Posted by pianosuzemn
It arrived!

My mother's 1906 Steinway upright "vertegrand" piano is now in my living room! It is absolutely amazing. It's so much better than my Kawai "institutional upright" piano....the sound is so much more nuanced. The repeated notes are much faster, and I can actually play scales so much faster. I can play much quieter and the resonance instantly sounded like the sound of my memories. It has a much more mellow sound than my Kawai which I am already adjusted to! A couple of things:

1) It is harder to press the keys down than what I'm used to. I think this is what makes it easier to control the nuances of sound but with my arthritic fingers it's a little bit harder and I need to be careful.
---Is this the action? Is this something I should let my technician adjust? Or should I just leave it alone?

2) A few of the notes are reverberating or "twanging" and I'm wondering how long I should wait before I get my person here to tune the piano. It just arrived 2 days ago, after being in the moving truck for 2 weeks.

Finally, just an observation: I am so so glad that I didn't get the wood refinished or buffed or anything. Everything else about the piano is new but with the worn areas, it definitely still feels like my mother's piano and the piano I grew up with. If that had been made to look new as well, I think it wouldn't have the same sentimental meaning.

Thank you to everyone. I know I've put you through the ringer too, with originally not even planning on going through with this restoration at all, and now I'm so very glad that I did!


Congratulations are certainly in order! Glad that you love the sound and the beauty/sentiment by not finishing the cabinet.


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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: pianosuzemn] #2895621
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Congrats, I've wondered how this turned out, thanks for the update.


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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: pianosuzemn] #2895623
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I would wait 2+ weeks for the tuning and discuss the twanging and regulation with your tech then. It may be that you need to have a couple of adjustments but give both you and your piano a chance to acclimate to each other before your tech comes

Congrats๐Ÿ˜Š. Enjoy!!!!


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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: pianosuzemn] #2895849
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Suze,

There are some fundamental differences between the SS action and your Yamaha action for one thing. Also, assuming new hammers were installed, they are probably significantly heavier than what was there originally (or at least what you were used to many years ago). And, as you say, your hands 'ain't what they used to be. Strings are new too, I assume, yes?

So, there will be an adjustment period, not only for the piano, but also for you. Expect the need to tune it quite frequently for the first couple of years. Twanging could easily be a tuning issue. Your trusted tech can inform you. Expect a need for some adjustments. Pretty normal.

Glad to hear it is complete and you are happy. Keep us informed.

Pwg


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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: pianosuzemn] #2896043
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I'm adjusting very well to it now! There are a few little twangs that I imagine will get worked out after a tuning, but otherwise it's great. And I can't get over how much faster my scales are.

Yes, it does have new strings, hammers, butts, key bushings whippens and more.

One more thing that's so much nicer is the pedals! I didn't expect this! I've never been great with my pedaling. It always feels clunky and not smooth. Well with this "new" piano I am amazing with my pedaling! Obviously my skills haven't suddenly improved---its got to be something with the mechanism. It's great.

So all in all I am more than thrilled. I was able to sell my institutional kawai upright at a very good price on Craigslist too....so all is well! Thanks again to everyone who went on this journey with me!


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Re: 1906 Steinway upright [Re: pianosuzemn] #2896161
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So happy for you, enjoy your new old piano!

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