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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: David B] #2847365
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Congrats on your new piano! Beautiful playing smile BTW the recording through your phone creates the impression of an acoustic grand piano! In the rare moments I can play on speakers I also feel I’m playing a real grand.


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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: Amy C] #2847372
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Originally Posted by Amy C
She has arrived! The way it sounds in my home is SO much better than it sounded in store - the tone has warmed up a lot, no more of that buzziness I heard when playing at Cunningham. I turned the brilliance down to 1 and have kept it there, and turned down the reverb quite a bit. The action on this piano BLOWS ME AWAY. Seriously. It just feels so authentic under the hand.

This is a potato quality recording (recorded on my Android with no mic, I made a few mistakes, and the sun keeps running in and out of the clouds so the lighting is wacky) but you can get a sense for how lovely the sound is.

Congrats! Lovely playing and such a nice digital piano!


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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: Amy C] #2847380
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Originally Posted by Amy C
She has arrived! The way it sounds in my home is SO much better than it sounded in store - the tone has warmed up a lot, no more of that buzziness I heard when playing at Cunningham. I turned the brilliance down to 1 and have kept it there, and turned down the reverb quite a bit. The action on this piano BLOWS ME AWAY. Seriously. It just feels so authentic under the hand.

This is a potato quality recording (recorded on my Android with no mic, I made a few mistakes, and the sun keeps running in and out of the clouds so the lighting is wacky) but you can get a sense for how lovely the sound is.


Lovely! The music's nice too.


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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: Amy C] #2847381
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Originally Posted by Amy C
She has arrived! The way it sounds in my home is SO much better than it sounded in store - the tone has warmed up a lot, no more of that buzziness I heard when playing at Cunningham. I turned the brilliance down to 1 and have kept it there, and turned down the reverb quite a bit. The action on this piano BLOWS ME AWAY. Seriously. It just feels so authentic under the hand.

This is a potato quality recording (recorded on my Android with no mic, I made a few mistakes, and the sun keeps running in and out of the clouds so the lighting is wacky) but you can get a sense for how lovely the sound is.




Wow Amy, that is some spectacular playing! I’m so impressed! If you say the action of the N1X blows you away that is very meaningful given your expert level of playing. I’m sure you have played many pianos getting to be as good as you are. Congratulations on the wonderful new instrument! I look forward to more videos like this!

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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: Amy C] #2847394
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Originally Posted by Amy C
She has arrived! The way it sounds in my home is SO much better than it sounded in store - the tone has warmed up a lot, no more of that buzziness I heard when playing at Cunningham. I turned the brilliance down to 1 and have kept it there, and turned down the reverb quite a bit. The action on this piano BLOWS ME AWAY. Seriously. It just feels so authentic under the hand.

This is a potato quality recording (recorded on my Android with no mic, I made a few mistakes, and the sun keeps running in and out of the clouds so the lighting is wacky) but you can get a sense for how lovely the sound is.




Funny how natural that piano sounds, with basic recording. Never sounds as good on YT demo vids. Lovely work, too. Quite a large instrument, isn't it? You'll enjoy it for years.

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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: peterws] #2847398
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Originally Posted by peterws
Originally Posted by Amy C
This is a potato quality recording (recorded on my Android with no mic, I made a few mistakes, and the sun keeps running in and out of the clouds so the lighting is wacky) but you can get a sense for how lovely the sound is.

Funny how natural that piano sounds, with basic recording. Never sounds as good on YT demo vids.

Yes, for a potato, that was a mighty fine recording that Amy made. Perhaps it was also that it was Bach? Chopin might have required the potato at least to be baked first! wink


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: Amy C] #2847400
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Originally Posted by Amy C
She has arrived! The way it sounds in my home is SO much better than it sounded in store - the tone has warmed up a lot, no more of that buzziness I heard when playing at Cunningham. I turned the brilliance down to 1 and have kept it there, and turned down the reverb quite a bit. The action on this piano BLOWS ME AWAY. Seriously. It just feels so authentic under the hand.

This is a potato quality recording (recorded on my Android with no mic, I made a few mistakes, and the sun keeps running in and out of the clouds so the lighting is wacky) but you can get a sense for how lovely the sound is.

BTW, now that you have such a nice piano under your fingers, consider sharing your future recordings with others over here so others can also appreciate both your playing and your piano. smile


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: David B] #2847411
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Fantastic Amy! I'm glad your AvantGrand found such a good home!

Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: Amy C] #2847428
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Originally Posted by Amy C
She has arrived! ...
This is a potato quality recording (recorded on my Android with no mic...


wow

A beautiful woman, playing a beautiful piano, beautifully.

Thanks for sharing.

God Bless,
David


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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: David B] #2847433
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Congrats on your new piano! Beautiful playing smile BTW the recording through your phone creates the impression of an acoustic grand piano! In the rare moments I can play on speakers I also feel I’m playing a real grand.


I was thinking the same. If I didn't know it was a DP and listened to that recording with my eyes closed, I would bet on an acoustic piano. And a good one, too. The only reason why I would maaaaaybe suspect otherwise is because the sound is possibly too clean (if such thing is possible), I assume because of the settings Amy changed.

This is the Nth proof the YT videos (in a way, including this one) really should be take cum grano salis.

Most importantly: brilliant stuff Amy!

Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: David B] #2847436
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I liked your playing very much, That piano sounds great


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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: David B] #2847458
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Amy's video (and Cunningham's) inspired me to try and capture the raw N1X sound. I used the two mics that I own (Rode NT1 and AT4033) and ran them through the right and left channels of my 2i4 and then panned them right and left in my DAW (Garage Band) for a stereo signal.

The piano sound is the N1X CFX multi channel sample with the factory settings. I recorded it as a wave file and did not process it at all. So it's a raw sound. I didn't try any other mic positions and recorded this on the second take. This is a song from my most recently compiled lesson in the Duane Shinn 52 Week Crash Course.

Ultimately, I prefer the binaural sample over the Multi channel one, but this still sounds good in person. It sounds good coming out of my studio monitors, but not so good out of my laptop speakers after it's been uploaded to youtube. I could probably play around with the mic positions to get a more accurate recording, but I didn't want to spend much time doing this. Hopefully it gives folks another perspective on the N1X sound.

Here it is.



God bless,
David

P.S. This sound is only the N1X internal speakers. My monitors are not producing any piano sound in this recording.



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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: Amy C] #2847464
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Originally Posted by Amy C
I turned the brilliance down to 1 and have kept it there, and turned down the reverb quite a bit.

Please take in mind the reverb level change isn’t preserved across piano restarts. Once you turn the piano off and on again it world restore the reverb level to the default value of 5. However the brilliance would be preserved. Also, the piano will store whether the reverb is on/off (the button light will be lit or not). So your only solution is to see whether you like the sound with the reverb entirely off and at least that would be preserved.


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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: David B] #2847465
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That is both nice playing and a very believable sound, imo.

Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: David B] #2847466
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Last week I spent 2 hours tuesday and again 2 hours thursday in the shop to try and compare the NV10 vs N1X.
I met another customer who also came to try these pianos. It was intersting because we don't hear exactly the same when playing and when listening.
The youg man I was comparing with had a very good level and he was playing modern style music like jazz and so, while I am more classical player.
Both NV10 and N1X are really great for DP but even if the NV10 did not have the issue of the one I own, sound seems more clear on the N1X and action more firm and accurate.
As I had the choice between exchanging my NV10 or returning it, I decided to return the NV10 and bought the N1X.
Unfortunatly it's not avalaible until september but I can keep the Kawai until that date.
Listening Amy and David make me impatient. Thanks for your performance!

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Ohh, we have a switcher now smile jgbs, congrats and welcome! Hopefully they will be able to find one for you much earlier than September.


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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: CyberGene] #2847469
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Ohh, we have a switcher now smile


He's been proselytized. smile


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Ohh, we have a switcher now smile jgbs, congrats and welcome! Hopefully they will be able to find one for you much earlier than September.


I hope so!
But to be honest, the NV10 is great also and except the issue on some notes it will help me to wait.

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Ohh, we have a switcher now smile


He's been proselytized. smile




That's true, even if I had in mind to test the N1X anyway.

Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On [Re: David B] #2847476
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It seems that N1X will be a bestseller, and significantly surpass sales of NV10. Personally, I would choose N1X too.

Did someone compare how the pedal feels in both? I read that in Kawai it is too tight and requires user's actions to fix it. How about N1X, how it feels?

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David, that's one of my favorite hymns! Sounds really good (and played beautifully)...the sound you captured is pretty true to my experience of the piano, though yours has a bit more reverb and a bit of a broader sound to it, like a grand in a concert hall vs a grand in a studio (probably due to my settings and the fact that I have mine in a small room with a lot of wood).

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