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learning theory #2847069
05/10/19 12:41 PM
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I wanted to know if this would be right approach to I can learn theory very well

Learn below 7 modal scales in two octaves for each key

1. ionion
2. dorian
3. Phrygian
4. Lydian
5.Mixolydian
6. Aeolian
7.Locrian

understand which 7th chords belong to which family of modes and their upper extensions (9ths , 11ths , 13ths)
so like in number 1 all chords would be named major## (# =the interval), number 2 would be a chord named minor ##(# = the interval), number five, dominant ##
Also, all chords are named in odd numbers
i.e
1. ionion - major 7
2. dorian - minor 7th
3.Phrygian minor 7th
4. Lydian - major 7th
5. Mixolydian - dominant 7th
6. Aeolian minor 7th
7. Locrian: diminished 7th


Please let me know if this is right , and if their is a book for such scales with proper fingerings in two octaves?


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Re: learning theory [Re: Jitin] #2847133
05/10/19 03:45 PM
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What exactly do you want to learn? Music theory or scales? I don't quite understand.

Re: learning theory [Re: Eric399] #2847140
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Originally Posted by Eric399
What exactly do you want to learn? Music theory or scales? I don't quite understand.

Ditto. What you (Jitin) have outlined is a fraction of a percent of "music theory."


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Re: learning theory [Re: Stubbie] #2847147
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I would like to learn, how to analyze chords when i'm learning any piece of music, such that I can recognize chord progressions and all chords as i'm learning from sheet music be it any type of music


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Re: learning theory [Re: Jitin] #2847529
05/12/19 12:01 PM
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Eric had the correct response, what do you want to learn and why? How much theory do you know now? What instrument do you play? We could presume piano since you're posting here, but I don't want to make that assumption. How old are you and where are you in the educational process (what grade are you in)? What is your goal as a musician? The answers to these questions will help us guide you.

As a way to get started I see your options as:
1 Get a teacher, find a way to take a course in music theory (typically about two years). This is probably the best way to go, you get a real curriculum and have a teacher to correct your work.
2 Enroll in an online course, you'll get a real curriculum and can do it at your own pace, not sure how they handle the correct your work part.
3 Watch Youtube videos, you're dependent on the quality of the presenter and you won't know what you don't know until it's painfully obvious.
4 Buy a book, actually not a bad idea, but you'll have to treat it like you're taking a course and you won't have a teacher to correct your work.

There are probably more options, but you should understand that learning theory involves more than harmonic analysis. There's ear training, rhythm, form and structure. To me at my advanced age, learning theory was putting a name to a lot of things I already knew and adding ancillary skills that enhanced my ability to learn and also compose music. Still, there was a lot to learn in the real world, but knowing theory helped me organize my thoughts as I gained knowledge.

Re: learning theory [Re: Jitin] #2847570
05/12/19 02:47 PM
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Please let me know if this is right ...

Ok. It isn't right.

Chords are not tied to keys. For example a Gm7 is a Gm7 regardless of key you are in and whether the key is major or minor.

Think you simply need a course on chords. There lots of them.

Last edited by Greener; 05/12/19 02:55 PM.

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