2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.9 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

Who's Online Now
69 registered members (Charades, Calavera, Bruce Sato, 36251, David Boyce, bounced, 19 invisible), 478 guests, and 438 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. #2845488 05/05/19 01:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
M
MarcoPiano123 Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
What is the best piano for a small Room?

Piano & Music Gifts & Accessories (570)
Piano accessories and music gift items, digital piano dolly, music theme party goods
Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2845502 05/05/19 02:13 PM
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5,265
terminaldegree Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 5,265
It really comes down to the specific piano in this case.

Almost nobody has had the chance to hear equally prepared examples of both versions in the same space, and even so it's not the best idea to make a blanket pronouncement of a model or brand by only playing one of them.

When I tried the new 185 at NAMM, it didn't seem like a huge difference from the standard 185 to my ears, however there weren't two to compare...and the last time I'd played a new (non VC edition) 185 was a year prior, making any comparison pretty pointless.


Pianist, teacher, apprentice technician, internet addict.
Piano Review Editor - Acoustic and Digital Piano Buyer
Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2845506 05/05/19 02:20 PM
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
M
MarcoPiano123 Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
In the showroom near me there is only the regular.
In Vienna I play the VC but long time ago and I can't realy comparate.
I'm scare to make a wrong choose! Suppose VC have more sound projection and maybe I don't need in a house whit small room.

Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2845513 05/05/19 02:43 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 311
S
Skjalg Offline
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
S
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 311
With regard to the room, I would not prefer one over the other. The VC was made to be a more appealing to wider audience; hence a more modern, versatile instrument (cross-genre), whilst the standard 185 is directed towards classical music. I have tried both the 185 VC and the regular, but not side by side. The 185 VC has duplex scaling, and a thicker rim. They can both make as pianissimo as any piano. The 185 VC I tried went to a church apparently.

I once intended to try the Bösendorfer 225, as it had been much discussed. I said to the dealer that it seems quite “popular”, popular here being a relative term, and he replied that never has an instrument been loved so much by so few, in other words not for everyone but those who like it tend to love it.

For the price of a 185 (VC) there are literally all sorts of alternatives, so make sure you try as many different brands as possible.

Example: Bechstein, Blüthner, Sauter, August Förster, Grotrian, Shigeru Kawai, Yamaha CF(4), Yamaha Sx.

Best of luck.

Skjalg




Last edited by Skjalg; 05/05/19 02:48 PM.
Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2845520 05/05/19 03:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 318
D
dhull100 Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Full Member
Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Full Member
D
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 318
I had to move a 185 (not the VC) from a smaller room to larger one, for what it's worth. At that price, I'd expect an in situ demo at my home and offer to pay transport costs if no purchase ensues. Marvelous instruments, for sure.

Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2845573 05/05/19 07:06 PM
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
M
MarcoPiano123 Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
Thanks for your opinions.
Y try many piano and a the moment I have a yamaha G2.
Steinwey was also great and in the beginning was my choose,very nice piano special touch and mechanic! But then i visit bösendorfer in vienna and the sound of bösendorfer is amazing is inspire to me.

Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2845657 05/06/19 02:55 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,287
J
joe80 Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
J
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,287
I think you should go for whichever piano you find more beautiful. I presume they're both the same price? I think the VC is slightly more powerful in the treble but I could be wrong. I did play one last August and found it to be phenomenal but I didn't play the standard 185

Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2845699 05/06/19 07:34 AM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 11,732
Rich Galassini Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 11,732
Originally Posted by terminaldegree
It really comes down to the specific piano in this case.

Almost nobody has had the chance to hear equally prepared examples of both versions in the same space, and even so it's not the best idea to make a blanket pronouncement of a model or brand by only playing one of them.

When I tried the new 185 at NAMM, it didn't seem like a huge difference from the standard 185 to my ears, however there weren't two to compare...and the last time I'd played a new (non VC edition) 185 was a year prior, making any comparison pretty pointless.


Great insight terminaldegree,

To the OP - I feel that for a room in a home, the traditional 185 design could work beautifully. It has been the choice of many pianists for their home.

If you were putting the piano in a large space as a recital piano, I might lean towards the VC, but for an intimate space, the traditional design will give you amazing performance.

Good luck,


Rich Galassini
Cunningham Piano Co.
Phila, Pa.
(215) 991-0834 direct line
rich@cunninghampiano.com
Subscribe to our YouTube channel for great content every week:
https://www.youtube.com/user/CunninghamPiano
Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2845836 05/06/19 04:14 PM
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
M
MarcoPiano123 Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
Thanks very much to all of you

Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2847565 05/12/19 01:26 PM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 11,732
Rich Galassini Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 11,732
Just wondering MarcoPiano,

What did you decide to do? Are you still here with us?


Rich Galassini
Cunningham Piano Co.
Phila, Pa.
(215) 991-0834 direct line
rich@cunninghampiano.com
Subscribe to our YouTube channel for great content every week:
https://www.youtube.com/user/CunninghamPiano
Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2866212 07/05/19 07:19 AM
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
M
MarcoPiano123 Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
M
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 8
Finally I chose the regular bösendorfer 185 becouse the sound is very sweet and I don't need so much sound projection for my small room.

Re: Bösendorfer 185 Regular Vs 185 VC in a small room. [Re: MarcoPiano123] #2866482 07/06/19 04:14 AM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 11,732
Rich Galassini Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Platinum Subscriber
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 11,732
Originally Posted by MarcoPiano123
Finally I chose the regular bösendorfer 185 becouse the sound is very sweet and I don't need so much sound projection for my small room.


For your space, this was a great choice, MarcoPiano123. Congratulations!


Rich Galassini
Cunningham Piano Co.
Phila, Pa.
(215) 991-0834 direct line
rich@cunninghampiano.com
Subscribe to our YouTube channel for great content every week:
https://www.youtube.com/user/CunninghamPiano

Moderated by  Ken Knapp, Piano World 

What's Hot!!
News from the Piano World
Our January 2020 Newsletter Available Online Now...
Free Piano Newsletter
----------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
Shop our Store for Music Lovers!
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Free Trial
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Metronome Steps
by Sam S - 02/23/20 02:41 PM
Piano Purchase Advice - SoCal/Orange County
by talkoftheweather - 02/23/20 02:35 PM
New set of Ronsen Weickert hammers on KAWAI RX3
by Bruce Sato - 02/23/20 01:16 PM
German pianos/pianists, US
by Maestro Lennie - 02/23/20 12:58 PM
Writing Whilst You're at the Piano ?
by AndyOnThePiano - 02/23/20 12:33 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics197,143
Posts2,929,050
Members96,085
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2019 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3