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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2844210
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Yes, and not only that, but most of us on this board are particularly tuned in to this kind of thing. Ascending and descending pitches, music memory; I'm sure our scores are a lot better than the general public would be.


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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: cmb13] #2844211
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Originally Posted by cmb13
Yes, and not only that, but most of us on this board are particularly tuned in to this kind of thing. Ascending and descending pitches, music memory; I'm sure our scores are a lot better than the general public would be.

Mine isn't! Maybe I should take again?


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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2844212
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by cmb13
Yes, and not only that, but most of us on this board are particularly tuned in to this kind of thing. Ascending and descending pitches, music memory; I'm sure our scores are a lot better than the general public would be.

Mine isn't! Maybe I should take again?

That or take up golf. rofl jk!


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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2844240
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That was fun...

Total score; 85%

Pitch discrimination: 82.6%
Musical memory: 85%
Contour discrimination: 90.4%
Attention: 80.6%
Musical/Visual abstraction: 81.9%


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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: cmb13] #2844247
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Originally Posted by cmb13
Okay I'm going to cancel my workday to begin this test....


Test only takes 5 mins, what kind of work do you do?? laugh

Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: fatar760] #2844272
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Originally Posted by fatar760
Originally Posted by cmb13
Okay I'm going to cancel my workday to begin this test....


Test only takes 5 mins, what kind of work do you do?? laugh

Any excuse for an afternoon off wink


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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: cmb13] #2844305
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Originally Posted by cmb13
First attempt:

Pitch discrimination: 76.8%
Musical memory 70.6%
Contour discrimination 71.1%
Attention: 74.2%
Musical/visual abstraction: 76.9%

There is a learning curve as to what the symbols are designating. I didn't first understand that the red and black were different voices, and the arrows were pitch, so I got a few wrong in the beginning of the first attempt. Second one was...

Pitch discrimination: 91.3%
Musical memory 90.1%
Contour discrimination 95.2%
Attention: 95.7%
Musical/visual abstraction: 93.9%
Total 95%.
The above just shows that there is a lot more than musical skill involved in the test. And that lot more has nothing to do with music. So the test in quite poor as a measure of musical skill. To test musical skill a choice among verbal descriptions would make a lot more sense.

Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2844309
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I should have finished it the first time to compare.

After the fourth question (or so), I completely realized what was asked, so I decided to start again (the first time, I didn't even notice that it was shown if the answer was wrong or right, so I haven't cheat that way ^^).

So on second try (but 2/3 of the questions I haven't answer the first time), I've got:

Pitch discrimination: 94,2%
Musical memory: 97,0%
Contour discrimination: 89,2%
Attention: 92,5%
Musical/visual abstraction: 95,5%


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- Pozzoli, E.R. 427, etude no. 6
Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2844318
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Pitch discrimination: 84.1%
Musical memory: 91%
Contour discrimination: 75.9%
Attention: 82.8%
Musical/visual abstraction: 87.6%

total: 85%

Not sure how scientific this is, but was interesting.

Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2845413
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Wow, I wasn`t expecting that, I got 95% in the first try!

Pitch discrimination: 94.2%
Musical memory: 97.0%
Contour discrimination: 85.5%
Attention: 93.5%
Musical/visual abstraction: 97.7%

I don`t know how relevant this is regarding musical skills. I always thought I had a bad ear and bad musical perception, not coming from a family of musicians. I can`t identify pitch or relative intervals, so I thought that I couldn`t possibly have a high score in any musical perception test. But I am pretty sure I couldn`t pass an admission exam for a music school, so this test might be pointless after all.


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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2845421
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Total Score: 70%

Pitch discrimination: 63.8%
Musical memory: 70.0%
Contour discrimination: 62.7%
Attention: 68.8%
Musical/visual abstraction: 76.2%

Rather average score. Some of these took a bit of guessing...

Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: facdo] #2845423
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Originally Posted by facdo
. But I am pretty sure I couldn`t pass an admission exam for a music school, so this test might be pointless after all.
It is pointless! I was in my class one of the best students in solfeggio; as a jazz musician, I understand the melodic contour better than the average academic musician; I do not complain about musical-visual abstraction. Yet my first test was 65%. Laugh ...

Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2845527
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Out of curiosity, I took this once:

Overall: 75%

Pitch discrimination: 66.7%
Musical memory 74.5%
Contour discrimination 81.9%
Attention: 73.1%
Musical/visual abstraction: 70.6%


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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tech-key] #2845529
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I d assoc blue with Debussy, red with military marches of Tchaikovsky, Yellow and orange with quick and light like Solfeggietto...Bach... Purple with Bach's Agnus Dei, and Green with "Greensleeves" ha hah

I didn't take the test....

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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2845646
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
. One could hear and remember things very clearly but simply not be able to form the association with the shape which is a separate skill.

Combining individual skills in this case is called synesthesia. We are all born with this, but gradually lose with the development of logical thinking. However, the synesthesia embryos remain, and through training they can be strengthened - as opposed to eg. Perfect Pitch.

Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2845650
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34%, missed the bus on that one !


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Re: The Musical Visual Intelligence Test [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2845882
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Well, maybe it points out an ability to be able to develop a relative ear.

If you can't even tell if there is a difference between two chords or two excerpts, you can't learn to name that difference.
So I guess it is a necessary base.


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- Mozart, K545, 1st mov
- Chopin, nocturne op. posth. in C# minor
- Debussy, Golliwog's cakewalk
- Pozzoli, E.R. 427, etude no. 6
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