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Fun Arpeggio Exercises #2843264
04/28/19 04:31 PM
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My teacher has me playing this little exercise:
C-Cm-Ab-Am-F-Fm-C. Each is a 4 note arpeggio of the chord.
You play the 4 note arpeggio of each chord, moving seamlessly to the next.
I'm not sure who composed this (if anyone), but it may have been an etude.

I'm using it for several purposes.....one, fingering and centering.
Second, to move from one octave to the next with a slide instead of a slide (not sure how to phrase this - is this the "thumb over" technique?).
Third is for evenness.

Anyway, it's a neat little exercise.


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Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: cmb13] #2843308
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I,d like to give this a try! Would you explain the notes? Are you saying C-CM, Ab-AM, F-FM, and end on C?

Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: Flair] #2843314
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Originally Posted by Flair
I,d like to give this a try! Would you explain the notes? Are you saying C-CM, Ab-AM, F-FM, and end on C?


He is saying:
Do a C major arpeggio, root position (C, E, G, C);
next play a C minor arpeggio, root position (C, E-flat, G, C),
then play an A-flat major arpeggio, first inversion (C, E-flat, A-flat C)
then an A minor arpeggio, first inversion (C, E, A, C),
then an F major arpeggio, second inversion (C, F, A, C)
then an F minor arpeggio, second inversion (C, F, A-flat, C).
end with a C major arpeggio, root position (C, E, G, C)
All the arpeggios except the first two are inversions, but they all start on C. In other words, all arpeggios that have the note C in them.

Presumably, these should be done for two, three or four octaves.

Does that help?

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Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: cmb13] #2843351
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Yes, exactly, I suppose I should have been more clear. Anyway it’s a fun exercise and it sounds good. Bruce, do you known if this has a name, and if it is an etude of any composer? I wonder if it is almost a preparatory etude for the Chopin etudes, or am I dreaming? Lol


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Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: BruceD] #2843497
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Awesome! Thank you very much, Bruce! I am so bored with just the standard Arpeggio!

Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: cmb13] #2843517
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Yes, Flair, I might add go up and back on each one. The final C of the last arpeggio is the first C of the next one, so it's a seamless transition.


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Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: cmb13] #2843521
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Reminds me a lot of practice routines we’d do in improv class. Take a set of changes usually common cadences combined changing keys in a symmetric pattern. That was done to changes would ultimately loop around so can extend the length of the exercise. Also so you don’t keep hitting same chord tones at same place when it loops. Also the changes some are a measure some are two beats and another chord. Gotta challenge the brain and fingers.

Once have a set of changes then pick a starting and end range of your instrument. Now play arpeggios of the chords in eighth notes and when a chord change is coming the important part of the exercise is make sure you are hitting the nearest chord tone of the next chord from where you are, this is where you really need to know your chord spellings. With four note arpeggios this pretty easy. Now keep amending up the range of the instrument playing the arpeggios until you get to your chosen high point of the range you decided on, now start descending until you get to the low point I the range you selected. When starting you might want to keep the range small, then increase as you get more comfortable, but ALWAYS focus on when chord change is coming you play the nearest possible chord tone of the next chord.

That's the basic idea and you can come up with other chord patterns and cycles to keep changing the game. Now time to make it harder start adding extensions and altered notes to the chords, but always go to the nearest chord tone and now that might be an extension or altered note.

This really drills your chord spelling knowledge, challenge technique, help develop ear, and help get you into voice leading arpeggios for improv or accompanying someone One exercise teaches a lot.

As class progressed we changed from arpeggios to scales again always changing to the nearest scale tone and when using scales for altered dominant chords it really challenges your brain to know your scale spellings. Once you get this going and you hear that voice leading scales between chords you start recognizing it in solos and melodies all the time.

Fun stuff give it a try sometime.

Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: cmb13] #2843525
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Wow that sounds really cool! What a project, Docbop!


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Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: BruceD] #2843572
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Thank you for the explanation, I'll give it a try.


Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Flair
I,d like to give this a try! Would you explain the notes? Are you saying C-CM, Ab-AM, F-FM, and end on C?


He is saying:
Do a C major arpeggio, root position (C, E, G, C);
next play a C minor arpeggio, root position (C, E-flat, G, C),
then play an A-flat major arpeggio, first inversion (C, E-flat, A-flat C)
then an A minor arpeggio, first inversion (C, E, A, C),
then an F major arpeggio, second inversion (C, F, A, C)
then an F minor arpeggio, second inversion (C, F, A-flat, C).
end with a C major arpeggio, root position (C, E, G, C)
All the arpeggios except the first two are inversions, but they all start on C. In other words, all arpeggios that have the note C in them.

Presumably, these should be done for two, three or four octaves.

Does that help?

Regards,



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Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: BruceD] #2843632
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Flair
I,d like to give this a try! Would you explain the notes? Are you saying C-CM, Ab-AM, F-FM, and end on C?


He is saying:
Do a C major arpeggio, root position (C, E, G, C);
next play a C minor arpeggio, root position (C, E-flat, G, C),
then play an A-flat major arpeggio, first inversion (C, E-flat, A-flat C)
then an A minor arpeggio, first inversion (C, E, A, C),
then an F major arpeggio, second inversion (C, F, A, C)
then an F minor arpeggio, second inversion (C, F, A-flat, C).
end with a C major arpeggio, root position (C, E, G, C)
All the arpeggios except the first two are inversions, but they all start on C. In other words, all arpeggios that have the note C in them.

Presumably, these should be done for two, three or four octaves.

Does that help?

Regards,

Thanks much. I'm going to try this too in the next few days.


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Re: Fun Arpeggio Exercises [Re: cmb13] #2843751
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Of course you all realize that this is just an arpeggio exercise based on the note C. Where do you want to go from there? Another set of exercises, each one starting on one of the remaining 12 keys? There's enough fun here for a whole week! smile

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