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Re: Mason Hamlin BB (used) or new Estonia 190 Hidden Beauty? [Re: wildbill] #2842453
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Congrats on making a decision on a fine instrument! Post recordings soon.

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Re: Mason Hamlin BB (used) or new Estonia 190 Hidden Beauty? [Re: pianoloverus] #2842459
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Originally Posted by Sanfrancisco
I think a total of 20db (ff on my piano is about 60db) reduction in transmission through a drywall/aluminum stud wall is reasonable.
Does this mean the sound transmitted through the wall is only partially reduced in volume?



20db is .25 times less loud if we're talking about sensed/perceived volume. If 60 db, the equal of a normal conversation from about a yard away is reduced by 20 db it's about the same as a quiet library. I am not an acoustician* nor an engineer; I don't do the math. these are from charts found at educational sites for sound and music engineering. I avoided numbers because of this. My post was to illustrate that there are thin forms of sound isolation solutions. I've used all of the ones I cited in my home studio except for green glue which wasn't widely available at the time .

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Re: Mason Hamlin BB (used) or new Estonia 190 Hidden Beauty? [Re: wildbill] #2842605
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I'm not sure Kurt's numbers are correct, a 6 dB decrease is half volume. Thus 60 dB decrease in sound is 1/2096 as loud. While the ear may be quite sensitive there's a reason there's a measurement called RT60. That's the time it takes reverberation to decrease by 60 dB, a 60 dB decrease is basically inaudible to humans (unless you begin with a very loud sound, the result may still be audible but soon thereafter won't be).

To the OP congratulations on making your decision. I'm sure you'll love your Estonia.

Re: Mason Hamlin BB (used) or new Estonia 190 Hidden Beauty? [Re: wildbill] #2842613
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Thanks, all. Definitely looking to mic this up and see what I can spin up...I'll post pics once we get her home...


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Re: Mason Hamlin BB (used) or new Estonia 190 Hidden Beauty? [Re: wildbill] #2842689
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