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"Horn Quartet Number Five" #2840870
04/20/19 09:45 AM
04/20/19 09:45 AM
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Larry G. Alexander Offline OP
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Horn Lovers,

This is my "Horn Quartet Number Five". It is the middle section of a rather extensive work.

http://www.alexandermusic.com/resources/HornQuartet05.mp3

The French horn is one of my favorite instruments. It is a pleasure to compose for it.

Regards,

Larry Graham Alexander

Last edited by Larry G. Alexander; 04/20/19 09:51 AM.

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Re: "Horn Quartet Number Five" [Re: Larry G. Alexander] #2841498
04/22/19 04:36 PM
04/22/19 04:36 PM
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Larry,

Was this rendered in a notation program (Finale, Sibelius or Dorico) or an audio production program? I ask because the horns sound like samples and could be made to sound more realistic in an audio production program. As for the music it sounds like you right up to the very end and then you give us a surprise. Your last little bit was for me the best part!

Re: "Horn Quartet Number Five" [Re: Larry G. Alexander] #2841641
04/23/19 09:15 AM
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The rendering was done with Sonar.

The horns ARE sampled...obviously. They are from an East/West sample library.

If all you can do is nit-pick, then don't respond to my postings again. I have been
composing and producing music for seventy-five years, since I was ten years old. What is your history?

Regards,

Larry Graham Alexander

Last edited by Larry G. Alexander; 04/23/19 09:16 AM.

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Re: "Horn Quartet Number Five" [Re: Larry G. Alexander] #2841652
04/23/19 09:50 AM
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Hi Larry,

I was trying to help you. My comments were intended to point you in the direction of producing a more realistic sounding recording. I asked if it was rendered in a notation program because it's more difficult (impossible) to produce a realistic recording in a notation program. But, you're using Sonar and that has substantial capability to produce remarkably realistic renderings.

My first music computer was an Apple II+ with all of 48K of RAM, so I've been at this for a while. If you're using Sonar then you should look into cc1 and cc11 automation. One automates the volume the other automates velocity cross fading to emulate the change in timbre that a horn player would normally achieve through breath control. If I may suggest getting to know VI-control, https://vi-control.net/community/ There are people and sample developers there who can achieve recordings that are almost indistinguishable from the real thing with samples. For example listen to this rendering of Mahler's Adagietto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=41&v=6CE74bJ-sdk

Can you believe that was done with samples?! Here's the thread on VI-controll where it gets discussed.
https://vi-control.net/community/threads/strings-ultimate-challenge-mahler-5th-adagietto.74197/

None of my comments in this forum are intended as anything but constructive. We've discussed your music and I've found some of your pieces delightful. You have a mature style and it's not going to change, so I don't comment on the music unless I'm inspired to. In this horn piece I found the very ending delightful and said so. But for me the horn sound detracted from the overall enjoyment and I thought you might appreciate some guidance on how to make it sound better. If you'd rather I didn't then I won't comment on your pieces anymore.


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