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The amazing Sienna pianoforte
#2841216 04/21/19 02:22 PM
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The tone on this piano is so unusual it almost sounds like a cross between a piano and a guitar or harpsichord:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wad...nP-yHkjNcSxOn5XTd3UFAacMgRTSi9Q7z7nfVfII

Here is an article about this piano with some additional very amazing recordings, especially the Scarlatti:
https://www.musicbanter.com/classic...zN7zCXpHuvK9wP20CZxepLifxrkOai61QLgoJyhw

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pianoloverus #2841228 04/21/19 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
The tone on this piano is so unusual it almost sounds like a cross between a piano and a guitar or harpsichord:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wad...nP-yHkjNcSxOn5XTd3UFAacMgRTSi9Q7z7nfVfII

Here is an article about this piano with some additional very amazing recordings, especially the Scarlatti:
https://www.musicbanter.com/classic...zN7zCXpHuvK9wP20CZxepLifxrkOai61QLgoJyhw


Neither of your links work, I’m afraid.


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Is this it?


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HIDEOUS! Worse than "un crapaud"!

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I read the book by Carmi years ago. I have also read that this piano is a fraud that Carmi foisted on the public. I tend to agree with the latter assessment.


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Originally Posted by petebfrance
Is this it?


It sounds somewhat like a Canadian-made Bell upright that my family owned. It had a fourth pedal which lowered leather strips tipped with pieces of metal against the strings. It gave somewhat of a "harpsichord" sound to the piano, but with the traditional sustain of a large upright.

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Originally Posted by petebfrance
Is this it?


...does somebody know the BWV-number of this Bach adagio?

Thx a lot!

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Originally Posted by Cheshire Chris
Neither of your links work, I’m afraid.
Sorry about that. Here are the correct links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wad...nP-yHkjNcSxOn5XTd3UFAacMgRTSi9Q7z7nfVfII

https://www.musicbanter.com/classic...zN7zCXpHuvK9wP20CZxepLifxrkOai61QLgoJyhw

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Cheshire Chris #2841256 04/21/19 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheshire Chris
Originally Posted by pianoloverus
The tone on this piano is so unusual it almost sounds like a cross between a piano and a guitar or harpsichord:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wad...nP-yHkjNcSxOn5XTd3UFAacMgRTSi9Q7z7nfVfII

Here is an article about this piano with some additional very amazing recordings, especially the Scarlatti:
https://www.musicbanter.com/classic...zN7zCXpHuvK9wP20CZxepLifxrkOai61QLgoJyhw


Neither of your links work, I’m afraid.


Didn't work for me as well.



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Originally Posted by swiss_boy
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...does somebody know the BWV-number of this Bach adagio?

Thx a lot!


This drove me crazy because it was so familiar but I couldn't place it! Then I realised I'd only ever heard and played it on the organ. It's the Adagio from the Toccata, Adagio and Fugue in C, BWV 564.

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Neither of your links work, I’m afraid.
Didn't work for me as well.
I corrected the links in the post right before yours.

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Originally Posted by yok
This drove me crazy because it was so familiar but I couldn't place it! Then I realised I'd only ever heard and played it on the organ. It's the Adagio from the Toccata, Adagio and Fugue in C, BWV 564.
It's probably the Busoni transcription which is quite popular.

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Originally Posted by yok
This drove me crazy because it was so familiar but I couldn't place it! Then I realised I'd only ever heard and played it on the organ. It's the Adagio from the Toccata, Adagio and Fugue in C, BWV 564.
It's probably the Busoni transcription which is quite popular.


Thx a lot to both of you, I will have a look to it!

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This piano (wrongly is rightly) is now for sale. If you have 2 million bucks for an old upright...

https://www.worldpianonews.com/historical/art-case-historical/the-immortal-piano/


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I love the sound of it. It reminds me of the Klavins Una Corda.


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Too late! The listing ended on 5 Feb.

See here.

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There has been a new development - the piano is to be auctioned tomorrow, in Jerusalem - see here.

On the auction listing you will see the fabulous and extraordinary history of this piano - fabulous, because I am sure it is a fable. The whole idea of taking an 1825 wooden-framed upright (which had taken 20 years to build!) and rebuilding it in the 1860s with an iron frame seems absurd. And the idea that as originally built, it had "a more delicate sound than the pianos of those days" also seems ridiculous - in those early days pianos did have a delicate sound.

There is very little to be found about the Marchisio family, the supposed builders. But in "The Piano - an Encyclopaedia" by Robert Palmieri I found this: "The family of the three Marchisio brothers was established in 1862. Two of them, Antonino (1817-1875) and Guiseppe Enrico (1831-1903) were also distinguished pianists ... furthermore, Guiseppe Enrico invented a frame reinforced with iron, which he called "staticofone". The renowned firm of the Marchisio brothers eventually employed over one hundred people, with an output of 250-300 pianos per year, in 1875 two of the brothers died, and all operations terminated.". You will see the relevance of this if you read the "history" in the auction listing.

The 1867 date of the Paris Universal Exposition tallies pretty well with the Marchisio dates. So it seems likely to me that this is an 1860s piano, built by Marchisio, with an elaborate "art case", for display at the exhibition. All the "fabulous" aspects are just that.

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So it didn't sell. I wonder what the highest bid was.

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With a starting price of $300,000, I do not think I am surprised! I would be surprised if there were any bids at all.

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300 grand? Was that including postage? laugh


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