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How do you like your teacher's piano? #2840756
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For those who take lessons, what do you think about the piano on which you play when you have a lesson? Is it in tune? How's the action? How does it compare with your own piano?



My teacher's studio piano is a small grand (Yamaha GC). It seems to be well-regulated and gets regular tunings, but it gets a lot of use. It takes me a bit each lesson to adjust to the different sound. I like my own piano a lot better.


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My teacher has a Yamaha studio piano, as do I, and we both use the same tuner. But I’m convinced her piano is tuned higher than mine, and I always have to take a few minutes to get accustomed to it.

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Originally Posted by Stubbie
For those who take lessons, what do you think about the piano on which you play when you have a lesson? Is it in tune? How's the action? How does it compare with your own piano?


It is a beast. Generally in tune. Hard to control--I ghost notes, especially at the beginning of the evening. But it is part of the gig.


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Re: How do you like your teacher's piano? [Re: Stubbie] #2840806
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It's a Shigeru Kawai, SK-2, supposed to be a great piano.

But the lid is closed and it's piled high with books, music, and other stuff (is that your lunch?). So I can't tell how it sounds.

I am not impressed with the action either - too heavy. Which only confirms what I have heard about Shigeru Kawai from other people.

So the experience is like playing a piano that is wrapped in an overcoat while wearing earplugs and mittens.

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My teacher has a Steinway grand, an older one, although I am not exactly sure of the year or model. I haven’t been playing it long enough to judge the piano but the sound just leaps out at me. The action seems sensitive and nimble. I don’t have that same feeling with my keyboard, lol, which feels a little more sluggish.

My teacher calls my keyboard a “gadget” and when I come home from a lesson and play it, I can see why. Now, I just want an acoustic but I do not want to torture anyone with my efforts so it will be the keyboard for quite a while.


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My teacher has a huge, old C.Bechstein grand. It is so different from my digital piano at home, that it takes me almost the entire lesson to adjust. It's action is not heavy at all and it's quite bright and crisp. Also, the pedal has a frightening echo to it, like some giant is stomping it's foot in the room. It's actually easier to play than my DP, only very very different.

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It's a Kawai upright and while it sounds in tune to me the action is much heavier than my Yamaha digital. We always begin with scales so i can get the feel of it for lessons. While I adjust more quickly now than at lesson #1 it still is a big jump and I find it difficult to play quietly on the Kawai. Just does not seem to be as wide a dynamic range as is available like on my digital. If I played it each day I would probably get used to it but in the limited time I have it is a big difference. With all that said it is probably the player who is at fault not the piano.

My first teacher who moved away had a Yamaha upright and I liked it better than the Kawai upright.


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Before I started lessons, I thought it would be important or somehow inspiring for the teacher to have a wonderful piano. I quickly realized that I would much rather get excellent instruction from a teacher.


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Re: How do you like your teacher's piano? [Re: Stubbie] #2840861
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My teacher in Hilo has a lovingly maintained, Steinway D. When I was regularly practicing on my Story & Clark 5'3" baby grand, it was a little difficult quickly adjusting to the lighter, much more nimble touch of the D. After finally, basically beating the Story & Clark to death (it wasn't made for hour upon hour of daily practice), I finally retreated to a Yamaha Arius for a keyboard, feeding its MIDI output to Pianoteq. While still not as ideal as a good acoustic, it was actually a whole lot better than the Story & Clark and required a lot less adjustment to transition to my teacher's D come lesson time. I just got an extremely nice specimen of a Steinway B, that was delivered today. It will be interesting to see how that shapes my playing on my teacher's D. I will still use the Pianoteq quite a bit, as I do have to coexist with the family and our house isn't huge. The Yamaha - Pianoteq combo feels even closer to the B than the D, but we'll see how that shapes up as I break myself in to the B. Eventually I need to upgrade the Arius for a better MIDI keyboard, but for now we'll work with it and enjoy the new B.

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Originally Posted by malkin
Before I started lessons, I thought it would be important or somehow inspiring for the teacher to have a wonderful piano. I quickly realized that I would much rather get excellent instruction from a teacher.


I agree. A good teacher with a good ear is far more important, so long as their piano isn't so bad that it's impossible to execute on it. It's been nice that my teacher does have a very nice piano, but no piano can substitute for a good ear. Fortunately, mine has both.

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My teacher works through a music store that has lesson rooms. The company provided piano is a Williams. I can't say that I care for it. The sounds are bad and the sustain pedal makes a loud mechanical click every time you use it.


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My teacher teaches at a college which is not overflowing with funds, so the pianos (in addition to the small grand there's an upright) in her studio/office reflect that. Her home piano is a Steinway. My home piano is a Yamaha C3X and the six inches greater length (and better construction) of the C3X versus the grand in her office makes a huge difference. Her studio piano is adequate, though, and she can get some great music to come out of it.


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My teacher has a 1994 Yamaha C5 grand v my baldwin console. The yamaha touch is heavier and I can get a much wider dynamic range with hers. She keeps it well tuned and as far as I can tell the action is uniform. I don't seem to have much problem going from one to the other. The only playing situation I run into is that sometimes when playing the C5 softly I do not press the key all the way down so it does not make the hammer hit the string. Come to think of it, that usually happens with my forth finger - the one that is not so obedient!

I agree the teaching skill is more important than the piano - although it should be a decent piano....


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While my two recent teachers have very good grands, a good, new Steinway A (?) currently, my biggest concern with one of my teachers was that the keys were rarely cleaned, and she taught a number of young children! Well, you never know where their fingers have been! i am not a germaphobe, but the feel of a grimy keyboard gave me more concern than the occasional out-of-tune unison.

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Originally Posted by BruceD
While my two recent teachers have very good grands, a good, new Steinway A (?) currently, my biggest concern with one of my teachers was that the keys were rarely cleaned, and she taught a number of young children! Well, you never know where their fingers have been! i am not a germaphobe, but the feel of a grimy keyboard gave me more concern than the occasional out-of-tune unison.

Regards,

I'm the same way! Just bring a pack of these for your next lesson and 3 mins and you'll be good to go!


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Re: How do you like your teacher's piano? [Re: Stubbie] #2840942
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I could care less I'm there to learn something not review the typical music store teaching piano, it's good enough for taking lessons on. If planning on playing out then getting used to adjusting to all sorts of pianos and sounds is an important skill to develop.

I'm surprised a piano teacher would teach on theIr good piano whole lot of extra wear and maintenance. From a teaching standpoint piano is PIA because not an instrument that student bring their own to lesson. I used to teach guitar and bass and so never shared an instrument in lessons. If a student was in situation where they couldn't bring their own instrument I would let them use an old "beater" guitar not my good instruments. which comes back to my first point as a pianist you are playing other pianos whenever not at home so need to learn to adjust to get your sound from whatever you play. Great players can always get a good sound from whatever they play it's a necessary skill.

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Are you kidding me?!? My teacher's piano is a 9 foot Baldwin SD-6. It's the 2nd best piano I've played in my life. The keyboard was rebuilt by the techs at the Oberlin Conservatory. Hands down its the best action I've ever played.

The best piano I've ever played was a 9 foot Steinway D on a stage at the University of Texas in Austin. That was fun but I'd never expect a teacher to have that kind of piano for lessons.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by BruceD
While my two recent teachers have very good grands, a good, new Steinway A (?) currently, my biggest concern with one of my teachers was that the keys were rarely cleaned, and she taught a number of young children! Well, you never know where their fingers have been! i am not a germaphobe, but the feel of a grimy keyboard gave me more concern than the occasional out-of-tune unison.

Regards,

I'm the same way! Just bring a pack of these for your next lesson and 3 mins and you'll be good to go!


I would not use those chemical wipes on my piano Keys... soap and water mixture or vinegar and water mixture or compound made for cleaning keys. Chemicals like these wipes are not recommended. If you are planning on cleaning someone else’s piano keys..,,,, ask first what is acceptable


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Originally Posted by Docbop
I could care less I'm there to learn something not review the typical music store teaching piano, it's good enough for taking lessons on. If planning on playing out then getting used to adjusting to all sorts of pianos and sounds is an important skill to develop.

I'm surprised a piano teacher would teach on theIr good piano whole lot of extra wear and maintenance. From a teaching standpoint piano is PIA because not an instrument that student bring their own to lesson. I used to teach guitar and bass and so never shared an instrument in lessons. If a student was in situation where they couldn't bring their own instrument I would let them use an old "beater" guitar not my good instruments. which comes back to my first point as a pianist you are playing other pianos whenever not at home so need to learn to adjust to get your sound from whatever you play. Great players can always get a good sound from whatever they play it's a necessary skill.
A good teacher with a crappy piano is just adding another layer of difficulty for the student, especially in the early stages.

For the fraction of piano students who plan to be professional musicians or gig frequently for fun, yes, adjusting quickly to all types of pianos and sounds is a good skill to learn. For the rest of us, most of our playing will be on our own piano or our teacher's piano with the occasional recital or piano party thrown in, and that skill is less valuable.

I think most teachers with very nice pianos of their own do not teach every student on them, but instead have a second, 'workhorse' piano in the studio for everyday teaching. The 'good' piano is reserved for the more advanced students getting ready for recitals or auditions, or at least that's my impression.


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I use Cory products recommended by the store that sold me the piano. I just spray the key cleaner on the Cory cloth and wipe it about once a month. I was my hands before I play and with the Cory cloth (microfiber cloth) after I play each time I wipe the keys with the dry cloth.

https://www.corycare.com/product/key-brite-key-cleaner/


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Originally Posted by malkin
Before I started lessons, I thought it would be important or somehow inspiring for the teacher to have a wonderful piano. I quickly realized that I would much rather get excellent instruction from a teacher.


I'd rather have both.

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Originally Posted by DFSRN
I use Cory products recommended by the store that sold me the piano. I just spray the key cleaner on the Cory cloth and wipe it about once a month. I was my hands before I play and with the Cory cloth (microfiber cloth) after I play each time I wipe the keys with the dry cloth.

https://www.corycare.com/product/key-brite-key-cleaner/


I use Cory products as well.


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Originally Posted by Stubbie
For the fraction of piano students who plan to be professional musicians or gig frequently for fun, yes, adjusting quickly to all types of pianos and sounds is a good skill to learn. For the rest of us, most of our playing will be on our own piano or our teacher's piano with the occasional recital or piano party thrown in, and that skill is less valuable.
I totally agree. Even for PW members, who generally have a higher degree of interest and motivation than average, I bet only a tiny percent play more than very occasionally on a piano other than their home piano. I think the skill of playing on different pianos is quite overemphasized on PW.

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My teacher has a Kawai grand that is always open. I have an Essex at home and the music school where I take a class and we play a lot of duets and pieces for two pianos has a Steinway . The Steinway is my favorite.
It really is a matter of taste though. Some of the others in the class do not like the Steinway and prefer the Kawais. They say the Steinway is not bright enough but I like a more mellow sound. I even prefer my Essex to my teacher’s piano. I find the action a little stiffer on it and I have more trouble playing softly on it. Of course it sounds great when he plays it.


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Before I started lessons, I thought it would be important or somehow inspiring for the teacher to have a wonderful piano. I quickly realized that I would much rather get excellent instruction from a teacher.


I'd rather have both.


Of course. And a jet plane and a bicycle.
But for the moment I have an incredible teacher. And a bicycle.


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I go to group classes at the local conservatory. The room has 4 rows of Yamaha Clavinova DPs. My teacher does teach privately during the week in the conservatory (presumably in a room with a Yamaha upright or a C3 grand).

I have a Yamaha DP at home and go to the conservatory regularly to rent a piano by the hour. In a given day I can be playing a Yamaha, Heintzman (made in Canada), Young Chang upright, Yamaha C3 or Steinway grand depending on the room available. All the pianos there are tuned regularly. Early in the morning I have more choices for a room with a specific brand of piano when the place is not busy.

A community center in my area also rent pianos by the hour. The ones there are mostly Yamaha uprights except for 1 room with a grand piano that are tuned regularly.

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My teacher's piano (a Yamaha upright) is better than mine (a pretty old but good-looking Baldwin Acrosonic upright). Hers has a richer, more sonorous sound (I think it's quite newer than mine). It always takes quite a bit of adjustment because everything just sounds louder on her piano and I feel like I'm playing there more heavily than I'd like to. But she thinks that a good piano player can always adjust to almost any piano, so she usually dismisses my complaints smile (in a nice way; she's absolutely amazing).

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. But she thinks that a good piano player can always adjust to almost any piano, so she usually dismisses my complaints smile (in a nice way; she's absolutely amazing).


Being able to adjust to almost any piano is a very important part of learning to play the instrument. Well worth trying to play on as many as possible and a trip to a piano store is a good excuse to do that and enjoy different pianos in the process.


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My teacher has me play on different pianos at the school, we switch rooms when available. My teacher is a paid performer once a month at a nursing home in which my father-in-law is in. I play a solos or a duet with him to get use to playing in front of people (hard for me to do). A while back there was a song with a glissando, on the YUS 5 it was not an issue, never thought about how it would happen on another piano. When I got to that part and did that, it did not seem to work and I am thinking what happened. The piano out there is old and it was challenge. For me playing on different pianos it helping me adapt to the nursing home piano. I am a nervous player anyway, and when I play on a decent piano and then have to play on one that may have issues, it is an adjustment.


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My teacher has this huge K Kawai grand .takes up half the room. So the feel is different than my Kawai ES 110 . So solid .

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OK, now I can confess. i don’t like my teacher’s piano. It’s an older model Mason & Hamlin with the real deal ivory keys that are very discolored but not in a uniform way. I am used to pristine looking keys that are uniform in color. I feel like I never play as well on her piano to reflect my abilities. Her piano also seems less responsive, harder to control. My own piano is a Schimmel grand.



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While my two recent teachers have very good grands, a good, new Steinway A (?) currently, my biggest concern with one of my teachers was that the keys were rarely cleaned, and she taught a number of young children! Well, you never know where their fingers have been! i am not a germaphobe, but the feel of a grimy keyboard gave me more concern than the occasional out-of-tune unison.

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I'm the same way! Just bring a pack of these for your next lesson and 3 mins and you'll be good to go!


I would not use those chemical wipes on my piano Keys... soap and water mixture or vinegar and water mixture or compound made for cleaning keys. Chemicals like these wipes are not recommended. If you are planning on cleaning someone else’s piano keys..,,,, ask first what is acceptable


Agree wih dogperson. I use only a cloth dampened by water to clean my keys. Even though I am the only one using it, and sometimes my duet partner, I wipe down my keys every couple of weeks.



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My teacher has a Steinway Model M that is probably turn of the century (19th to 20th) that was rebuilt in the 80's. It's a beast. Very heavy action, hard to control for me. It's not a joy by any means. And this is intentional. He has another Steinway upstairs in his home (he has a basement level room turned in to a music studio.) Apparently it is much nicer and easier to play, and in fact he used to have it in his studio. However, he decided it was beneficial for his students to learn on a more difficult piano as there is technique he can teach with it that gets smoothed over by the nice piano, so he had them switched.


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As a teacher, I start new students on a digital (Yamaha P-255) until they build up some basic technique and then move them on to my primary piano - a Baldwin SD-10 concert grand, whom I affectionately call Kuroneko. The German action on Kuroneko is fairly heavy, which I like, but can be tricky for some students at first.

In contrast, I have a colleague who is a retired conservatory professor (Donetsk and Novosibirsk). She mostly teaches on a mediocre Steinway (I think it's a rebuilt M) at her daughter's music school. In her home studio, she has one of the worst Yamaha uprights (not sure of the model) I have ever played (and I've played some stinkers)! She is currently coaching me through ABRSM Grade 8, and I was in shock the first time I played that thing. Even she says it isn't a good piano, but I figure if I can do well on that monstrosity then it won't matter what piano I have to play at the exam.

When I was a child in the remote Appalachian wilderness, my teacher had a very well-maintained Baldwin console. I had a Conn console at home - built like a tank, perfect for a child's banging, but not a very musical piano.


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Originally Posted by Dr. Rogers
As a teacher, I start new students on a digital (Yamaha P-255) until they build up some basic technique and then move them on to my primary piano - a Baldwin SD-10 concert grand, whom I affectionately call Kuroneko. The German action on Kuroneko is fairly heavy, which I like, but can be tricky for some students at first.


How long before you graduate students to the acoustic? What are they playing? I’m trying to build up a case to convince my wife to let me get an acoustic upright, a Seiler with the cool magnet action, if I can get away with it. :-) I don’t have room for a grand.


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How long before you graduate students to the acoustic? What are they playing? I’m trying to build up a case to convince my wife to let me get an acoustic upright, a Seiler with the cool magnet action, if I can get away with it. :-) I don’t have room for a grand.


I usually keep them on the electric for about a month or so, just long enough for them to develop some rudimentary technique. I may be over-cautious, but I don't want anyone hurting themselves on Kuroneko's heavy action.

All of my beginning students over the past several years have started on digitals; many stay on digitals but some do eventually acquire and upright or a grand.


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My teacher's studio piano is a Steinway M. I like its sound and touch a lot--quite different from my Baldwin, which I also like of course. I've gotten used to adjusting but I'm still sometimes surprised by the different response in particular spots.


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My first teacher taught on an out of tune spinet. It was so old it wouldn't stay in tune anymore. I mean, there are limits. My teacher now has a nice Baldwin baby grand that she only allows her adult students to play (kids use the upright).

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My current teacher has Yamaha U3 that is 30+ years old. A very modest instrument compared to what many of you are describing, but it has been meticulously maintained and is in excellent condition. My previous teacher taught in a music school where the condition and maintenance of the instruments was really quite disappointing. Notwithstanding, I still go there periodically to practice playing an acoustic as I have a DP at home. The one I usually had lessons on was a Kawai upright and for all its flaws is better than most of the rest I've played there.

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Originally Posted by enw10
My first teacher taught on an out of tune spinet. It was so old it wouldn't stay in tune anymore. I mean, there are limits. [...]


This raises the question that has been discussed before: If a teacher can't afford a reasonably decent piano as a teaching instrument, should s/he even be teaching?

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Easy answer-I don't. My teacher has a Baldwin Acrosonic. It doesn't sound good at all to my ears. Several of the keys do not play right. Not terribly enjoyable to play. It is my first time playing piano ever (51 y.o. male). I agree that a good teacher is the most important thing with lessons but I wish it was a better piano. I much prefer my Casio PX-160.

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Not all teachers like keyboards / DPs. It'd be nice to have one on-hand for emergencies in case the piano is really out of tune.

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Originally Posted by Arcflash
Easy answer-I don't. My teacher has a Baldwin Acrosonic. It doesn't sound good at all to my ears. Several of the keys do not play right. Not terribly enjoyable to play. It is my first time playing piano ever (51 y.o. male). I agree that a good teacher is the most important thing with lessons but I wish it was a better piano. I much prefer my Casio PX-160.


I lived with a Baldwin Acrosonic spinet for a while, when I wasn't playing piano, and it certainly didn't make a good impression on me just listening to it! Was the teacher's piano a spinet? I think I would prefer my P-515 to that.

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Yes it is a spinet. I read up on the Acrosonics and I guess as far as spinets go they were one of the better ones but I am definitely not impressed with this one.

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Originally Posted by BruceD

This raises the question that has been discussed before: If a teacher can't afford a reasonably decent piano as a teaching instrument, should s/he even be teaching?

Regards,


This one shouldn't have been. The piano wasn't a deal breaker for me, but it certainly reflected the teacher's level of commitment to teaching.

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Are you kidding me?!? My teacher's piano is a 9 foot Baldwin SD-6. It's the 2nd best piano I've played in my life. The keyboard was rebuilt by the techs at the Oberlin Conservatory. Hands down its the best action I've ever played.

The best piano I've ever played was a 9 foot Steinway D on a stage at the University of Texas in Austin. That was fun but I'd never expect a teacher to have that kind of piano for lessons.


Actually, my teacher does teach on a D, and a very good one at that, maintained in top shape by an excellent RPT. All his students play on it from the get go. They've never hurt themselves or the piano, although once when he swapped positions with a young student to demonstrate a passage, she made the mistake of casually leaning back on the chair and putting her feet up on the edge of the piano. Needless to say, that only happened once. smile

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Originally Posted by Arcflash
Yes it is a spinet. I read up on the Acrosonics and I guess as far as spinets go they were one of the better ones but I am definitely not impressed with this one.


I've had my (used) Baldwin Acrosonic since 1995. It's not bad but I'll need an upgrade at some point. This piano has been heavily used between me and my two daughters, all taking lessons...

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I suppose that anyone who is taking lessons remotely is bemused by this question. wink

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I suppose that anyone who is taking lessons remotely is bemused by this question. wink
Likely so!

What surprises me is that no one has answered with "over easy, with a side order of bacon" or something to that effect. laugh


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Well I need to update a little. My teacher's piano is great for pieces with a lot of pedal compared to the poor pedal on my P115. After last night's lesson I'm browsing rent to own options for uprights again.

I'd still use the digital to spare the family from the learning process and just play things that are ready for the upright. Maybe I can sell them on that. LOL


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My teacher's Piano is a DP Roland RP-401R, and is way better than the P45 I used to have. Also tried a P115, and it was barely the same as the P45. When I had the P45, I would strugle everytime I would go to the class just to adapt myself to the different keyboard (the entry level Yamahas (GHS) feel almost like slighltly heavy arranger keyboards... I felt that only the Clavinovas (GH3) and upwards had a feel in level with the Roland's entry level DPs (that use PH4)). So I went with the Roland F-140R, almost the same as the RP-401R (key action is identical, the sound is slightly worse), more compact and for me one of the better looking compact pianos. (I could have gone with the FP-30 that is also PH4, but after you add the stand and the pedals, the price was almost the same, and the F-140R is overall a better piano).

Now I'm 45, started playing a year ago, and my aspirations are not very serious I must say. I don't have the space, neither the funds to own a real piano. Even my piano classes are quite inexpensive. But I felt that not all DP are equal... some are more like real pianos than others. And some of these are better than a lousy traditional piano.


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