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Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: willpianist] #2839298
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Originally Posted by willpianist
Hong Kong 15
Spain 9
Gabon 6
France 4
Luxembourg 2
Mexico 1

What pianos could they be?


Well in France, you have the Stephen Paulello, making grand pianos.
The rest could be people moving country, and the country of origin then being set as the country one is moving from.
As an example, Gabon has both French, and more recently Chinese links. So there will be (grand) pianos there for sure.


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Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: iLaw] #2839302
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There was a thread a while ago about some people claiming to be making pianos in Africa. I don't remember the actual nation.

Perhaps those of us who suspected a scam were wrong, although I doubt it.


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Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: PhilipInChina] #2839305
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Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
There was a thread a while ago about some people claiming to be making pianos in Africa. I don't remember the actual nation.

Perhaps those of us who suspected a scam were wrong, although I doubt it.


That was in Rwanda. Personally I think that project is a group of well-intentioned dreamers,rather than a scam. As in I think they are trying to do what they claim, though whether they will succeed or not is another question. They blog pretty extensively on it http://kigalikeys.blogspot.com/

Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: iLaw] #2839431
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If it is imports according to US Customs, then the list certainly includes many private used pianos. Private companies and governments move employees worldwide and move their pianos with them, typically in the container with their household goods. So, any moving into the US with their piano will appear on the list. If their previous work posting was Gabon and the new one is the US, it will show a transfer. If an employee discovers a trove of cheap pianos in Gabon and decides to purchase them and convinces their employer to ship them to the US with their stuff, it could also show on the list.

Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: patH] #2839984
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Originally Posted by redfish1901
2. Who knew Fazioli's were so popular in the US?
Schulze Pollmann is Italian too.


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Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: astrotoy] #2839988
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Originally Posted by astrotoy

I also watched the Trifonov video (not completely) but didn't see any statement about what piano he owned in his apartment in NYC. What is it? It looked like a Hamburg Steinway in his concert in Dortmund, and maybe a similar piano in his home in NYC?


Trifonov has a Fazioli at home.

https://www.facebook.com/nytimes/vi...-of-the-greatest-pian/10151372669444999/

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Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: Ken Iisaka] #2840549
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Originally Posted by Ken Iisaka
Originally Posted by astrotoy

I also watched the Trifonov video (not completely) but didn't see any statement about what piano he owned in his apartment in NYC. What is it? It looked like a Hamburg Steinway in his concert in Dortmund, and maybe a similar piano in his home in NYC?


Trifonov has a Fazioli at home.

https://www.facebook.com/nytimes/vi...-of-the-greatest-pian/10151372669444999/


Oh, OK. Thanks. I don't enjoy the Fazioli, relatively overtone-free sound.

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Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: iLaw] #2840893
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Keep in mind that Yamaha, Kawai and Samick have major factories in Indonesia. Most of their entry-level instruments are mage there.

I've been to Samick's factory in Indonesia and it was quite impressive. IMHO generally the workmanship and attention to detail is better in Indonesia than in China.


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Re: So where are the big grands coming from? [Re: Steve Cohen] #2841103
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Originally Posted by Steve Cohen


I've been to Samick's factory in Indonesia and it was quite impressive. IMHO generally the workmanship and attention to detail is better in Indonesia than in China.


Interesting. It seems Indonesia and Malaysia have long history in furniture making. However, the choice of materials in my experience does not lend itself to long term value in quality ( in the furniture domain).


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