2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Pianoteq
Steinway Spiro Layering
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
Who's Online Now
60 members (bobrunyan, Beowulf, anotherscott, Alfred La Fleur, Boboulus, 8ude, accordeur, ando, Amadeus M., 6 invisible), 445 guests, and 563 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 26 of 193 1 2 24 25 26 27 28 192 193
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
A
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
What exposure do you need to protect against?

Dust and cat hair. And then more cat hair. And the cats themselves.

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,618
6000 Post Club Member
Online Content
6000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,618
N1X is a dust magnet frown I thought my apartment was dust free compared to the previous ones, since we live on a high floor, far from busy roads and indeed there’s much less visible dust on the furniture than before, it’s much cleaner than what I’m used to. Well, I realized I was wrong after I got the N1X laugh It seems to collect and somehow suck all the dust in the universe...


My YouTube, My Soundcloud
Currently: Yamaha N1X, DIY hybrid controller -> Garritan CFX
Previously: NU1X, ES7, MP6, CA63, RD-700SX, CDP-100, FP-5, P90, SP-200
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 13,188
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 13,188
I meant to pose my question to pianokat123.
Originally Posted by arc7urus
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
What exposure do you need to protect against?
Dust and cat hair. And then more cat hair. And the cats themselves.

Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
A
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I meant to pose my question to pianokat123.
Originally Posted by arc7urus
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
What exposure do you need to protect against?
Dust and cat hair. And then more cat hair. And the cats themselves.

Maybe piano_kat_123 has no cats ;-)

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 17,247
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 17,247
She (?) is a dog person. wink


Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own.
Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player.
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 7
J
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
J
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by pianokat123
Hi all. I'm still awaiting my N1X - Yamaha just advised my dealer it will now be a few weeks later than expected so looking at mid May I believe. Can I ask, and sorry if it's been asked before, has anyone found a decent cover for the N1X? Or anyone that would make one to size online? Nothing too old fashioned or frilly preferably! laugh


My dealer is advising mid-late June delivery despite we are on the same island. Guess this is also why our price are heavily discounted. wink


I am going to stitch a few towels together to make the piano cover. laugh

Last edited by J5on; 04/17/19 05:37 AM.
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 506
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 506
I have "not" watched this video yet... I guess this will be an interesting comparison to watch. Thanks, Bonners!:



Nord Grand, Kawai MP11 (v1), iMac 2017, Yamaha HS8's, Sennheiser 650, Focusrite 2i4, Pianoteq 6.4.0, Steinway Model A, Mason and Hamlin Model AA, Piano Marvel: 3C
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 506
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 506
I watched the video and both the piano's sound great! I am assuming they are direct in recorded.

I "think" I preferred the N1X for my style of play or my hearing. The N1X seems to have a little bit more "bite" to the samples and the NV10 is slightly more mellow in tone. This makes sense since the real AP's sound that way in real life.

Now, it is just your own personal flavor of sound that you prefer. I am so happy that the hybrids have come out now and these days of playing DP's and their inferior sound are going away.


Nord Grand, Kawai MP11 (v1), iMac 2017, Yamaha HS8's, Sennheiser 650, Focusrite 2i4, Pianoteq 6.4.0, Steinway Model A, Mason and Hamlin Model AA, Piano Marvel: 3C
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 654
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 654
Originally Posted by HwyStar


Now, it is just your own personal flavor of sound that you prefer. I am so happy that the hybrids have come out now and these days of playing DP's and their inferior sound are going away.


Since I live just down the road from Bonners Showroom in Reigate and I went and played on the two hybrids and a Fuerich. My report on that visit is here
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...ha-n1x-released-at-namm.html#Post2823274


[Linked Image]
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 69
P
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 69
Originally Posted by HwyStar
I watched the video and both the piano's sound great! I am assuming they are direct in recorded.

I "think" I preferred the N1X for my style of play or my hearing. The N1X seems to have a little bit more "bite" to the samples and the NV10 is slightly more mellow in tone. This makes sense since the real AP's sound that way in real life.

Now, it is just your own personal flavor of sound that you prefer. I am so happy that the hybrids have come out now and these days of playing DP's and their inferior sound are going away.

One of the benefits of the N1X is that it comes with 2 distinct samples - the Yamaha CFX that is indeed "bright" and the Bosendorfer that is a lot more mellow. The NV10 has just one sound, but provides a number of different filters to make it brighter

I haven't been able to watch the video above - it is comparing NV10 with N1X or the N1?

Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 9,824
9000 Post Club Member
Offline
9000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 9,824
Originally Posted by percy64
I haven't been able to watch the video above - it is comparing NV10 with N1X or the N1?

N1X. It is only the second N1X video on Youtube since NAMM (after Chrispy's!)


[Linked Image]
across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 5,289
G
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
G
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 5,289
Originally Posted by percy64

One of the benefits of the N1X is that it comes with 2 distinct samples - the Yamaha CFX that is indeed "bright" and the Bosendorfer that is a lot more mellow. The NV10 has just one sound, but provides a number of different filters to make it brighter


While true for the SK-EX rendering engine, the NV10 comes with ~17 different pianos (probably 5-7 samples distinct samples) including EX Grand, SK-5, and upright pianos. You'd be forgoing the advanced rendering engine, but IIRC the N1X reserves some of its features for its flagship CFX sample only, too.


Yamaha P-85, P-105, CP50, Kawai MP11 || Kawai NV-10
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,618
6000 Post Club Member
Online Content
6000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,618
Originally Posted by Gombessa
Originally Posted by percy64

One of the benefits of the N1X is that it comes with 2 distinct samples - the Yamaha CFX that is indeed "bright" and the Bosendorfer that is a lot more mellow. The NV10 has just one sound, but provides a number of different filters to make it brighter


While true for the SK-EX rendering engine, the NV10 comes with ~17 different pianos (probably 5-7 samples distinct samples) including EX Grand, SK-5, and upright pianos. You'd be forgoing the advanced rendering engine, but IIRC the N1X reserves some of its features for its flagship CFX sample only, too.

Well, yes and no. On the N1X both the CFX and the Bosendorfer use 4-channel sampling. I would assume they are equally premium and make use of all the possible engine effect like resonances, smooth release, etc. It was on Clavinova pianos that the Bosendorfer lacked some features. On the NV10 you have only one rendering piano, the SK-EX, whereas the others are stereo samples with the older engine.

Last edited by CyberGene; 04/17/19 09:13 AM.

My YouTube, My Soundcloud
Currently: Yamaha N1X, DIY hybrid controller -> Garritan CFX
Previously: NU1X, ES7, MP6, CA63, RD-700SX, CDP-100, FP-5, P90, SP-200
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 14
P
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 14
Originally Posted by arc7urus
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I meant to pose my question to pianokat123.
Originally Posted by arc7urus
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
What exposure do you need to protect against?
Dust and cat hair. And then more cat hair. And the cats themselves.

Maybe piano_kat_123 has no cats ;-)


Haha! No cats, but a dog, and two small children... often (always?) with sticky hands. Any extra form of protection can only help! Whilst they're young anyway, I totally agree it's a shame to cover it as it's a beautiful instrument.

Sigh, just need to be patient now. Arghhh!

Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 69
P
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
P
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 69
Originally Posted by HwyStar

N1X. It is only the second N1X video on Youtube since NAMM (after Chrispy's!)

Ah - I see a brand new video - I will look forwards to watching it later - but I am pretty sure Bonners have already put out an N1X video (and of course an NV10 one).

Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,507
Gold Subscriber
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
Gold Subscriber
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,507
YMMV, In my opinion the “older” samples of the SKEX, EX, and especially the SK5, are still very good. Playing SK5 on speakers in a room just sounds so realistic to me. cool



Kawai NV10
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
A
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by HwyStar
I watched the video and both the piano's sound great! I am assuming they are direct in recorded.

I "think" I preferred the N1X for my style of play or my hearing. The N1X seems to have a little bit more "bite" to the samples and the NV10 is slightly more mellow in tone. This makes sense since the real AP's sound that way in real life.

Now, it is just your own personal flavor of sound that you prefer. I am so happy that the hybrids have come out now and these days of playing DP's and their inferior sound are going away.

In the NV10 you have several settings to configure the sound output. Since this is a sample-based instrument there are obvious limits, but, nevertheless, you have some room for adjustments. And then you have the "characters" in pianist mode that work as kind of presets using different "microphone" position and mix settings. These also significantly change the sound profile. The N1X seems to be more limited in this regard (unless the external app unlocks additional settings).

Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 5,289
G
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
G
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 5,289
Originally Posted by CyberGene
[quote=Gombessa]
Well, yes and no. On the N1X both the CFX and the Bosendorfer use 4-channel sampling. I would assume they are equally premium and make use of all the possible engine effect like resonances, smooth release, etc.


Is it confirmed that the Bosendorfer is also multi-sampled?

What about binaural audio?


Yamaha P-85, P-105, CP50, Kawai MP11 || Kawai NV-10
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
A
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
Originally Posted by Gombessa

Is it confirmed that the Bosendorfer is also multi-sampled?

Yes according to the specs: "Features 4-point spatial acoustic samples of two world class concert pianos: the Yamaha CFX and the Bosendorfer Imperial" (https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/avantgrand/n1x/index.html)

Originally Posted by Gombessa
What about binaural audio?

Binaural audio only applies to the CFX.

Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 9,824
9000 Post Club Member
Offline
9000 Post Club Member
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 9,824
Originally Posted by percy64
Originally Posted by HwyStar

N1X. It is only the second N1X video on Youtube since NAMM (after Chrispy's!)

Ah - I see a brand new video - I will look forwards to watching it later - but I am pretty sure Bonners have already put out an N1X video (and of course an NV10 one).

They have, of course, put out videos on both. This new one is a head-to-head comparison of the N1X and NV10, though.


[Linked Image]
across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Page 26 of 193 1 2 24 25 26 27 28 192 193

Moderated by  Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
(ad)
Couch to Concert Hall
Couch to Concert Hall
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Incoming August Forster!
by whited - 03/05/21 11:06 AM
Slightly used vs heavily used Yamaha actions
by GnGEmpire - 03/05/21 10:59 AM
Beginner - ES110/ES920
by Esky - 03/05/21 10:37 AM
What if this were reversed?
by mmathew - 03/05/21 08:26 AM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums42
Topics205,397
Posts3,066,895
Members100,718
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


© copyright 1997 - 2021 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5