Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.7 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Who's Online Now
65 registered members (AlphaBravoCharlie, Ankee, Arty Movie, Avalanch, Animisha, AndrewJCW, atamgp, 5penguins, 17 invisible), 1,117 guests, and 4 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 29 of 39 1 2 27 28 29 30 31 38 39
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2838690
04/13/19 10:51 AM
04/13/19 10:51 AM
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 127
F
FlexHank Offline
Full Member
FlexHank  Offline
Full Member
F

Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 127
The dynamics of the Piano-world forum, we even learn about the cultural differences! By the way, I agree with the above. I have lived in every part of the world, and sometimes you think you understand each other, while in fact, both are trying to communicate and do their best, but are not even close. For instance, the concept of "group thinking vs individual", or "family orientation", or "politeness vs directness", or "spontanic actions vs planning", etc.. this is so different around the world. Is this the same for music appreciation?

(ad) SWEETWATER Lowest Prices
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: FlexHank] #2838728
04/13/19 01:44 PM
04/13/19 01:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,030
Finland
C
clothearednincompo Offline
1000 Post Club Member
clothearednincompo  Offline
1000 Post Club Member
C

Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,030
Finland
Originally Posted by FlexHank
[...] this is so different around the world. Is this the same for music appreciation?


Or Casio piano sound appreciation?

laugh

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: clothearednincompo] #2838748
04/13/19 02:54 PM
04/13/19 02:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 127
F
FlexHank Offline
Full Member
FlexHank  Offline
Full Member
F

Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 127
Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Originally Posted by FlexHank
[...] this is so different around the world. Is this the same for music appreciation?


Or Casio piano sound appreciation?

laugh


Sorry, just bought a Kawai, but Casio has its market segment

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2838824
04/13/19 05:57 PM
04/13/19 05:57 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,869
rintincop Offline
1000 Post Club Member
rintincop  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,869
Best in it's weight class, without doubt.
Do you gig and move yours around much?


Casio PX-S3000, PX-360. Mojo 61.1966 Mason & Hamlin. Rhodes Suitcase.
Previously: FP4, FP50, Kawai ES4, Kurzweil PC2X.
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2838981
04/14/19 07:28 AM
04/14/19 07:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 9
D
DoogansDad Offline
Junior Member
DoogansDad  Offline
Junior Member
D

Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 9
And here I was... hoping that the whole new page of comments that got added to this thread would be from happy people who's PX-S3000 arrived before mine did. Nope. Instead, it was just a bunch of sarcasm.

Dang.


Last edited by DoogansDad; 04/14/19 07:30 AM.
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2838998
04/14/19 08:46 AM
04/14/19 08:46 AM
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 798
P
PossumES8Krome61 Offline
500 Post Club Member
PossumES8Krome61  Offline
500 Post Club Member
P

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 798
I tried the 1000 out at GC and SA in NYC- but they had it at the top of a tier with no pedal- so it was not either really comfortable to play or realistic in the sense that I wouldn't be playing a piano 3 feet above normal with no pedal!

I think Casio did a nice job with this; a clear sound and expressive. However, I didn't think the speakers were particularly loud, I actually prefer the ones on my P125 which I think project the low end a little better. However the speakers were defintely an improvement over the x50 series from years ago.

I just left it on the initial piano sound-

I'm not sure I will by this as I already have a P125 for this role but who knows, maybe once I can try it out with a pedal and on a stand I will feel differently.

Off topic I also tried the FP10 and thought it was decent in the $400-$500 range but it doesnt seem to have lineouts.


Kawai Es8
Korg Krome 61
Yamaha P125
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: PossumES8Krome61] #2839009
04/14/19 09:30 AM
04/14/19 09:30 AM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,204
A
anotherscott Offline
5000 Post Club Member
anotherscott  Offline
5000 Post Club Member
A

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,204
Originally Posted by PossumES8Krome61
However the speakers were defintely an improvement over the x50 series from years ago.

The x50 series itself varied. The 350 had better speakers than the 150. Do you remember which you tried (i.e. which you're comparing the 1000 to)?

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2839112
04/14/19 01:27 PM
04/14/19 01:27 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,869
rintincop Offline
1000 Post Club Member
rintincop  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,869
When I go to a GC and they have it on those slanted wall stands, which effects the action weighting, I take it off the wall without asking and put it on a floor stand. They never mind. And I leave it that way.

Last edited by rintincop; 04/14/19 01:28 PM.

Casio PX-S3000, PX-360. Mojo 61.1966 Mason & Hamlin. Rhodes Suitcase.
Previously: FP4, FP50, Kawai ES4, Kurzweil PC2X.
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2839349
04/15/19 06:45 AM
04/15/19 06:45 AM
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 131
Portugal
M
MarioPf Online content
Full Member
MarioPf  Online Content
Full Member
M

Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 131
Portugal
For what I have seen and heard these new models of the Privia line have 3 advantages:

1. They are more compact.

2. Less noise from the keyboard mechanism. It also seems to me that the distance between keys is more uniform.

3. The main piano sound is more 'open' or 'natural'.

These are not dramatic improvements and do not seem to justify upgrading from the previous line. But I have some expectation about a future PX-S5000 model, replacing the PX-560. A second version of Hex layers, more controls, and not the same key action that is in PX-S1000/3000. I know that Casio 'philosophy' is to have the same key action
through the whole line but it would be much more interesting to have something more close to Kawai ES-8 or Roland Fp-90 in terms of keybed quality (even if it is to have a non-compact and not ultra light DP).

Last edited by MarioPf; 04/15/19 06:46 AM.
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: MarioPf] #2839455
04/15/19 11:01 AM
04/15/19 11:01 AM
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
Europe
A
arc7urus Offline
1000 Post Club Member
arc7urus  Offline
1000 Post Club Member
A

Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 1,181
Europe
Originally Posted by MarioPf
For what I have seen and heard these new models of the Privia line have 3 advantages:
1. They are more compact.

That is only an advantage if you are carrying it around. Otherwise is irrelevant. They os weight the same as the previous PX generation (ca. 12 Kg) and the dimensions are not that different:
Previous PX models: 1322 x 293 x 147 mm
Current models: 1322 x 232 x 102 mm

Quote
2. Less noise from the keyboard mechanism. It also seems to me that the distance between keys is more uniform.

If they are indeed less noisy that would be excellent. The previous Casio action (at least on the slabs) was extremely noisy.

What do you mean by uniform key distance? I have seen several previous generation PX models and never detected issues with the keyboard, apart from the noise.

Anyway, the action is also more compact, which means a shorter pivot point on an already short key. And just two sensors along with some marketing magic that makes it "better" than a three sensor action...

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: arc7urus] #2839461
04/15/19 11:31 AM
04/15/19 11:31 AM
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 131
Portugal
M
MarioPf Online content
Full Member
MarioPf  Online Content
Full Member
M

Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 131
Portugal
Originally Posted by arc7urus
Originally Posted by MarioPf
For what I have seen and heard these new models of the Privia line have 3 advantages:
1. They are more compact.

That is only an advantage if you are carrying it around. Otherwise is irrelevant. They os weight the same as the previous PX generation (ca. 12 Kg) and the dimensions are not that different:
Previous PX models: 1322 x 293 x 147 mm
Current models: 1322 x 232 x 102 mm


And if are short of space. At least the PX-S1000 can run on batteries and you may think to go out with it more times.

Quote

What do you mean by uniform key distance? I have seen several previous generation PX models and never detected issues with the keyboard, apart from the noise.


My PX-560 has an irregular space between some consecutive keys. Maybe this not occur with all DP but I think I've remember that more people were complaining about that. It was something very annoying in the first days but now I don't care anymore.

Quote

Anyway, the action is also more compact, which means a shorter pivot point on an already short key. And just two sensors along with some marketing magic that makes it "better" than a three sensor action...


I have an old Roland cabinet model with long pivot points and I've felt immediately that in the PX-560 some keys 'don't produce sound'. It took some weeks to adapt to the shorter pivots points. We could say that this is not a limitation but this not exactly true.

"Two sensors x Three sensors" - One have to try to 'see' with our own fingers.

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: MarioPf] #2839522
04/15/19 01:18 PM
04/15/19 01:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,204
A
anotherscott Offline
5000 Post Club Member
anotherscott  Offline
5000 Post Club Member
A

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,204
Originally Posted by MarioPf
But I have some expectation about a future PX-S5000 model, replacing the PX-560...not the same key action that is in PX-S1000/3000. I know that Casio 'philosophy' is to have the same key action through the whole line but it would be much more interesting

It may be more interesting, but one way Casio succeeds as a high value line is by keeping costs down by re-using the same components in different products across the line and over some period of time. Since they just developed a new action, I doubt their plans include immediately developing another one.

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: anotherscott] #2839766
04/16/19 05:45 AM
04/16/19 05:45 AM
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 131
Portugal
M
MarioPf Online content
Full Member
MarioPf  Online Content
Full Member
M

Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 131
Portugal
Originally Posted by anotherscott
Originally Posted by MarioPf
But I have some expectation about a future PX-S5000 model, replacing the PX-560...not the same key action that is in PX-S1000/3000. I know that Casio 'philosophy' is to have the same key action through the whole line but it would be much more interesting

It may be more interesting, but one way Casio succeeds as a high value line is by keeping costs down by re-using the same components in different products across the line and over some period of time. Since they just developed a new action, I doubt their plans include immediately developing another one.


The new CDP-S and PX-S models have the same dimensions and almost the same key action, only the PX-S line have a 'Smart' action, which is a software feature. So, if a future PX-S5000 would also have the 'Smart Scaled Hammer Action' this means that the top Privia model will have basically the same key action that is present in the entry models. This would be very disappointing but probably this would be the Casio decision.

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2840312
04/17/19 10:37 PM
04/17/19 10:37 PM
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 7
Mesquite
A
atcsam Offline
Junior Member
atcsam  Offline
Junior Member
A

Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 7
Mesquite
Link to webinar on the px-s3000...

https://www.crowdcast.io/e/px-s3000

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2840407
04/18/19 09:45 AM
04/18/19 09:45 AM
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 9
D
DoogansDad Offline
Junior Member
DoogansDad  Offline
Junior Member
D

Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 9
Mine is supposed to arrive today.
Woohoooo

.

Last edited by DoogansDad; 04/18/19 09:46 AM.
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2840643
04/19/19 11:57 AM
04/19/19 11:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 18
D
DaveLang Offline
Junior Member
DaveLang  Offline
Junior Member
D

Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 18
Thanks a lot Mike Martin for that Webinar! You just cost me $900! Great job by the way..
I just ordered the PX-S3000 and is due to arrive Monday 4/22.
The only shortfall appears to be the electric Piano tones. Why can't Casio give us a decent Fender Rhodes sample? They could take the market with this keyboard if they would stop serving us cheesy EP tones. Yamaha excels for EP.

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2840646
04/19/19 12:08 PM
04/19/19 12:08 PM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 550
B
Beakybird Offline
500 Post Club Member
Beakybird  Offline
500 Post Club Member
B

Joined: May 2014
Posts: 550
That sounds great. Great playing, Mike Martin!

If you're a gigging musician who carries his/her own equipment, this looks like a great option.

For at home playing or going into a recording studio, I would prefer a more expensive digital grand for optimal piano feel, but for gigging, weight is an issue. I bought a gig bag for my 55lb. Roland FP-90, but after lugging it one time to a friend's house, I decided that it is staying at home. I only put it in the gig bag one more time - to take it to the repair shop.


Roland FP-90; Pianoteq 6 + many add-ons; 2 Yamaha HS8s; ATH-M50X and Samson SR850 headphones; Xenyx Q802USB interface. 2; I make a living playing a Yamaha PSR-S970 with FBT Maxx 2a's, Crowne Headset Mic. I also play guitar.
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2840707
04/19/19 04:49 PM
04/19/19 04:49 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,869
rintincop Offline
1000 Post Club Member
rintincop  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,869
Review PX-S3000

It's a total upgrade. The best playing action and sounding board I've ever owned other than my Mason & Hamlin acoustic piano.

Key Action: superb
Dynamic Response: pp-ff excellent
Grand Piano: impressive with realistic behavior
Speakers: clear

Clean Vintage Tone Rhodes: EP1 is authentic BUT first you must Turn OFF Phaser and Tremolo for a clean tone, then it's fine for soloing. I assigned Control Knob 1 to Chorus and Control Knob 2 to Reverb.

Vibraphone 1: excellent
Acoustic Bass: excellent

Editing interface takes getting used to...

It sounds great for gigs when I boost the volume with my customized Fender Rumble 40 Bass amp. There's no harshness.


Casio PX-S3000, PX-360. Mojo 61.1966 Mason & Hamlin. Rhodes Suitcase.
Previously: FP4, FP50, Kawai ES4, Kurzweil PC2X.
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: rintincop] #2840711
04/19/19 05:06 PM
04/19/19 05:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 274
48-49 High Street (WI, USA)
T
TheophilusCarter Offline
Full Member
TheophilusCarter  Offline
Full Member
T

Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 274
48-49 High Street (WI, USA)
Originally Posted by rintincop
Review PX-S3000

It's a total upgrade. The best playing action and sounding board I've ever owned other than my Mason & Hamlin acoustic piano.

Key Action: superb
Dynamic Response: pp-ff excellent
Grand Piano: impressive with realistic behavior
Speakers: clear

Clean Vintage Tone Rhodes: EP1 is authentic BUT first you must Turn OFF Phaser and Tremolo for a clean tone, then it's fine for soloing. I assigned Control Knob 1 to Chorus and Control Knob 2 to Reverb.

Vibraphone 1: excellent
Acoustic Bass: excellent

Editing interface takes getting used to...

It sounds great for gigs when I boost the volume with my customized Fender Rumble 40 Bass amp. There's no harshness.

Any thoughts about the dreaded Casio pivot that everyone is always gnashing their teeth over? laugh


Decent upright bassist, aspiring decent pianist
Casio PX-160, Casio CDP-130
Roland KC-80
Pianoteq 6 Stage (used with Pearl MalletStation)
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: rintincop] #2840713
04/19/19 05:19 PM
04/19/19 05:19 PM
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 6,965
Tyrone Slothrop Offline
Tyrone Slothrop  Offline

6000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 6,965
Originally Posted by rintincop
Review PX-S3000

It's a total upgrade. The best playing action and sounding board I've ever owned other than my Mason & Hamlin acoustic piano.

Key Action: superb

Could you try playing it near the fallboard on both the black and white keys, and then do that on your M&H and give us a comparison between the two?

The PX-S3000 sounds like it would make a great travel piano for me, but not if the action near the fallboard is poor.


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Page 29 of 39 1 2 27 28 29 30 31 38 39

Moderated by  Piano World 

(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Bechstein
Shop our Store for Music Lovers!
PianoSupplies.com is Piano World's Online Store
Please visit our store today.
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
New Topics - Multiple Forums
I think I’m too old
by Mils. 10/16/19 01:06 AM
Diatonic Harmony in Piano by Kent Hewitt
by RhodesFanatic. 10/15/19 09:09 PM
Help Identify this piano
by Xenolith. 10/15/19 08:26 PM
What is this piece?
by pianoloverus. 10/15/19 07:53 PM
Heintzman & Co. project opinion
by D.P.. 10/15/19 05:56 PM
What's Hot!!
Our August Newsletter is Out!
------------------
Mason & Hamlin Piano Factory Tour!

-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics194,543
Posts2,879,584
Members94,681
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2019 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1