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Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2839293
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Updating, shame I can't see changelog anywhere smirk

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Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2839295
04/15/19 03:38 AM
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v1.0.2f --> v1.02g changelog:

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- Improved: Changes to sound processing parameters that may reduce distortion
- Fixed: Virtual Technician "Store to Sound" function could fail in some cases
- Fixed: Electric Piano key-off noise could stop sounding in some cases
- Fixed: Performing Concert Magic songs could result in "stuck" notes in some cases
- Fixed: Sound mode internal song recorder could store incorrect data in some cases
- Fixed: USB audio file playback could delay sound of played notes in some cases
- Fixed: Damper pedal events could not be detected in some cases
- Fixed: Strange sound could occur when switching from Concert Magic to Favorites screen and starting the recorder
- Fixed: Pianist mode recorder did not apply ambience level correctly
- Fixed: Gradual increase in metronome volume when alternating between Pianist mode and Sound mode


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Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2839308
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Originally Posted by Nordomus
Wall EQ is stored in favorites and this works, I'm just saying it should be on by default.

From how you write this I'm not sure if you are aware that you can also make it a default that is also active if no favorite is selected (if you use the "startup with favorites" option properly), so I thought I'd mention it again.

Originally Posted by Nordomus
I tested ambience with favorites but it didn't work, I had 1.0.2f at the time though, gonna update in free time and get back to you about that as well.

That is strange. Because 1.0.2f definitely had a fix for an ambience/Romantic related bug. That bug had the effect that if your changed the ambience for Romantic (for example to Natural instead of Echo) and tried to save this as a favorite, the favorite would then not use the Romantic character at all (so while it didn't have Echo ambience, it also wasn't Romantic). But I had reported this bug to Kawai and the fix for it was included in 1.0.2f. I know, because I tested it, and I've had a Romantic-with-Natural-Ambience favorite in my list since then, and it works as one would expect.

Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2839309
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JoBert, thank you for clarifying. Yes, I also recall you confirming that the ambience/Romantic bug had been fixed.

It's possible that there has been a regression in the v1.0.2g update, however I no longer have access to a CAx8 in this office, so am unable to check this point for myself.

Nordomus, can you confirm the issue you are referring to, please?
I wonder if you were perhaps referencing one of paf's or arc7urus' older posts?

Kind regards,
James
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Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2839327
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Ok so the ambience is remembered along with sound character and when I power on instrument then it on Romantic/chosen ambience. But as soon as I change to classic and back to romantic it's echo again.

Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2839340
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Originally Posted by Nordomus
Ok so the ambience is remembered along with sound character and when I power on instrument then it on Romantic/chosen ambience. But as soon as I change to classic and back to romantic it's echo again.

I think I understand what you mean.

Yes, if you are not on the favorites screen but in normal pianist mode, then whenever you change the rendering character (by swiping left/right) the new rendering character that you select will fall back to its defaults, both regarding the ambience and BTW also regarding the resonances level. AFAIK, there's no way to change this fallback-to-default-ambience-and-resonances behavior when swiping left/right in pianist mode.

If you want to have easy access to a permanently changed ambience or resonances, you need to create a favorite. That's why I have a favorite for Romantic with Natural ambience. If I want to play with the Romantic character, I select that favorite.
Actually, that's the reason why I have stopped using the normal pianist mode screen altogether, because in addition to wanting a different ambience for Romantic, I also want slightly higher resonances (I want 8, the default is 6).
So I created favorites for the 8 rendering characters that I am likely to use (well, I use Classic 95% of the time, but sometimes I use others, but only 8 of the total of 10 - I don't like Pop or Boogie, so I didn't create favorites for those) where each favorite has the resonances set to 8. And Romantic also has the ambience changed to Natural.

And when I want to switch through the different characters, I do so by selecting the matching favorite, not by swiping the pianist mode screen.

TBH, I too would prefer if there were a way to change the default ambience and resonances (for each rendering character) on a permanent basis, so that the piano would recall them when swiping in pianist mode and I wouldn't have to use favorites. But I guess this is one of those "not the most ideal behavior, but works as described in the manual, so not a bug" things, so I don't have any hopes that this will be changed (for this generation at least).
And as I said, 95% of the time I'm using Classic anyway, via my startup favorite, so it isn't really a big annoyance to me. I just power on the piano, wait the few seconds for it to boot, and then start playing, without even touching the control panel (which automatically goes dark after 10 seconds anyway, so it doesn't bother me that it's currently showing the rather bland favorites screen, and not the more flashy/colorful pianist mode screen).

Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2849543
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Ok I have one more disapointment. I discovered today that in pianist mode you can't change tuning and temperament smirk I was looking to playing with this a bit. Those options are only avaivle for sound mode for some reason.

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Originally Posted by Nordomus
Ok I have one more disapointment. I discovered today that in pianist mode you can't change tuning and temperament smirk I was looking to playing with this a bit. Those options are only avaivle for sound mode for some reason.

From reading this forum, it appears there are many limitations in pianist mode, including not generating MIDI output, I believe.


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Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2849545
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Does anybody play the piano? It seems that much time is spent playing the knobs and buttons instead. Or expressing despair for the lack of knobs and buttons.

Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: MacMacMac] #2849547
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Does anybody play the piano? It seems that much time is spent playing the knobs and buttons instead. Or expressing despair for the lack of knobs and buttons.


What? What do you mean "play the piano"? You can play the piano? I thought it's all about knobs and buttons wink

Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: MacMacMac] #2849550
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Does anybody play the piano? It seems that much time is spent playing the knobs and buttons instead. Or expressing despair for the lack of knobs and buttons.

Just to prove you wrong, check out the second link here. I think he touches the keys a few times! laugh


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Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2849554
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Does anybody play the piano? It seems that much time is spent playing the knobs and buttons instead. Or expressing despair for the lack of knobs and buttons.

Just to prove you wrong, check out the second link here. I think he touches the keys a few times! laugh

Haha, good one smile

Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2849907
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by Nordomus
Ok I have one more disapointment. I discovered today that in pianist mode you can't change tuning and temperament smirk I was looking to playing with this a bit. Those options are only avaivle for sound mode for some reason.

From reading this forum, it appears there are many limitations in pianist mode, including not generating MIDI output, I believe.

In that you believe wrong. Pianist mode outputs MIDI just fine.
Controlling pianist mode with MIDI (i.e. feeding it MIDI control signals) is a different story. It generally works too, but a few of the advanced pianist mode features are then inactive (e.g. you don't get the modelled string resonances or the hammer fallback noises).

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Originally Posted by JoBert
From reading this forum, it appears there are many limitations in pianist mode, including not generating MIDI output, I believe.

In that you believe wrong. Pianist mode outputs MIDI just fine.
Controlling pianist mode with MIDI (i.e. feeding it MIDI control signals) is a different story. It generally works too, but a few of the advanced pianist mode features are then inactive (e.g. you don't get the modelled string resonances or the hammer fallback noises).[/quote]
Thanks for the clarification! thumb


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Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Nordomus] #2850149
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As JoBert notes, MIDI Output functions as normal on the CA98 (and all other instruments that share the same hardware platform), however MIDI Input does not generate resonances, as the DSP does not respond to MIDI Input.

Kind regards,
James
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Re: Kawai CA98 [Re: Kawai James] #2850197
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Originally Posted by Kawai James


Yes, I see your point. I will try to improve this for the CA99 owner's manual. wink

Cheers,
James
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