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Roland HP702 and HP704
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Seems an interesting upgrade to the HP60n series.

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Hmm... I supposed they'd put PureAcoustic technology in new HPs, but it's still on SuperNatural.


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Honestly looks like a downgrade on the 702 and a "more of the same" on the 704. The HP702 has PHA-4. Which is WORSE than what the even HP601 had .Both the 702 and 704 have the old SuperNatural Modeling, so not an upgrade at all from the 603 and 605. I really don't see the point of these models unless you're upgrading from several generations ago or have no piano right now. And I doubt they'll be any more affordable (in the United States) compared to the LX...considering the fact that several places I've checked sell the HP605 for the exact same price as the LX 705 lol. I'm really disappointed. The HP603 and 605 seemed to be identical to the LX7/LX17 except for their speakers. This time the differences between the HP700 and LX700 series are pretty massive.

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Absolutely stunning promo video.

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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Absolutely stunning promo video.

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The trouble with using that clapping GIF is that it is Charles Foster Kane defiantly clapping for his wife, who is the world’s worst opera singer, from the movie Citizen Kane. Charlie builds her an opera house so she has some place to sing because nobody else will hire her. So, I don’t know whether your clapping is sincere or not.

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The gif shows a man clapping - a universal sign of appreciation.

The context of this particular scene in the film is irrelevant.


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Originally Posted by Kawai James
The gif shows a man clapping - a universal sign of appreciation.

The context of this particular scene in the film is irrelevant.



I disagree, that shot carries its context with it, and it matters. I took it that you were clapping out of spite.

This kind of reminds me of the Nike commercial where they used an African tribesmen holding up a shoe and saying something in his native tongue. Nike didn’t know what he was saying and didn’t care. An expert in African languages figured out that he was saying: “I don’t want this one.”

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Furthermore, why must great films be chopped up into little bits and destroyed in this way?

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Originally Posted by LarryK
I took it that you were clapping out of spite.


Well, that wasn't my intention - as indicated by the "absolutely stunning promo video" line of my post.

Anyway, about those new Rolands...


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I'm sorry but this is bad, why would they put very old bad keyboard in any new model? On top of that no pure acoustic modelling? I'm guessing they had a bit of old parts left in warehouses to use so they are using them smile
I wouldn't recommend those models to anyone, maybe HP704 if the price is adequate.
As for video it's pretty nice as advertisement although it shows almost nothing, hopefully they will make more informative ones.

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They need to fill in that gap on the backboard. Spoils everything.


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The difference upgrades between the HP601 and HP702 are the sound, from Supernatural to Supernatural Modelling. There is also the newer design, interface and compatibility with Piano a Every Day app.

You are right, if you want PHA50 you have to go up to the HP704. I checked with a few stores and the HP605 is discontinued (they can’t get hold of any more) and has been replaced by the LX705, so I’m surprised that stores close to you are pricing these models the same.


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The HP 601 was a "class" lower than the 603/605 from what I was told by the dealership. That's why it was released much later. The 702/704 seem to be replacing the HP603/605. Comparing that same "class" then, the HP702 is like a 603 with worse action. That may be why it's a "02" instead of an "03". Better than 601 but worse than 603? "Newer design" is a minor difference, as is the app most people wouldn't use. I've heard the HP605 was "discontinued" fairly often for a good while now but my local store never seems to be low on them. I don't know how many they have in "the back" so maybe they've just been sitting on a lot. But other stores I called within the state (and the next state over) don't seem to have issues stocking them either. Either way, the fact that the old model is being priced at the SAME price as the LX705 (I have a photo if you don't believe me, PM if you want to see the BS), ESPECIALLY if it's "Discontinued" pretty much confirms the HP702/704 will be priced insanely high here as well. Sorry I sound so negative. I just expected a lot more with how expensive these will be (here). I really expected them to follow the path they had last time where the HP 603/605 had the same sound engine AND action has the LXs. Having speaker/cabinet be the only difference was a fantastic way to do things and I had a lot of respect for Roland for doing that with the last generation. Anyway, I love the new engine the LX series has. Looks I'll keep saving up for the overpriced 705

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If you want the PHA50 keyboard, the HP601 is the cheapest console model that has it; it was selling at a bargain price, but I bet it ain't now!


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Nice video by Tony at Bonners Music - HP702 and HP704 buyers guide

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Okay why in *** name will these pianos be so expensive in the USA. Even the LX705 is over-priced. This is going to be directed at MacMacMac, I don't care about that you make an offer. I only have one Roland Dealer that is 15 miles away and the other three are in surrounding States. In the UK the LX705 is going for £2,109.00. Exchange rate of 1.4 would put the price at still under $3000.00 I got quoted at the $3799. Really I'll pass at my local dealer
Really? Roland in the USA needs to address this. The USA pricing is out of whack. The LX704 at Bonner's Music is listed at £1,759.00 so at exchange rate of 1.5 (the current exchange rate is 1.31) the piano would be under $2700.00. Nope, my local dealer quoted me $3400.00 is the best price they could do.

I really don't like that Roland in the USA tries to hide the prices of the HP and LX models. Even in PianoBuyer Roland prices are basically MRSP.

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Originally Posted by EPW
Okay why in *** name will these pianos be so expensive in the USA. Even the LX705 is over-priced. This is going to be directed at MacMacMac, I don't care about that you make an offer. I only have one Roland Dealer that is 15 miles away and the other three are in surrounding States. In the UK the LX705 is going for £2,109.00. Exchange rate of 1.4 would put the price at still under $3000.00 I got quoted at the $3799. Really I'll pass at my local dealer
Really? Roland in the USA needs to address this. The USA pricing is out of whack. The LX704 at Bonner's Music is listed at £1,759.00 so at exchange rate of 1.5 (the current exchange rate is 1.31) the piano would be under $2700.00. Nope, my local dealer quoted me $3400.00 is the best price they could do.

I really don't like that Roland in the USA tries to hide the prices of the HP and LX models. Even in PianoBuyer Roland prices are basically MRSP.

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EPW, This is the main reason I decided it was crazy for me to buy an LX706/LX708. After taxes, it was almost twice as expensive here in Washington DC as if I were to buy it in Germany. Yet the comparable CA78/CA98 were not the same. This meant that in the US, the CA98 was a lot less expensive than the LX708, which should be its competitor. I think this pricing is just completely broken for Roland.


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I was looking forward to buy the roland lx705 at the end of the year. I was sceptical at first about the hp704, but I am not so sure anymore. Regarding the difference between those two models I found only, the hp704 has older supernatural piano modeling and the lx705 has the newer pureacoustic modeling. There are 4 speakers with 60W output and the keyboard is also the same PHA50. I tried the lx705 in the shop and I liked it quite a bit, but the HP704 is 400 euros cheaper. Are there any other major differences between those two model except the modeling. If this is true 400 euros to spare isn't that bad.

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Originally Posted by pengi
I was looking forward to buy the roland lx705 at the end of the year. I was sceptical at first about the hp704, but I am not so sure anymore. Regarding the difference between those two models I found only, the hp704 has older supernatural piano modeling and the lx705 has the newer pureacoustic modeling. There are 4 speakers with 60W output and the keyboard is also the same PHA50. I tried the lx705 in the shop and I liked it quite a bit, but the HP704 is 400 euros cheaper. Are there any other major differences between those two model except the modeling. If this is true 400 euros to spare isn't that bad.

I strongly suggest that you try them side by side. 400 euros difference means totally different sound engines, so probably you'll need to see which one you like the best


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Originally Posted by pengi
I was looking forward to buy the roland lx705 at the end of the year. I was sceptical at first about the hp704, but I am not so sure anymore. Regarding the difference between those two models I found only, the hp704 has older supernatural piano modeling and the lx705 has the newer pureacoustic modeling. There are 4 speakers with 60W output and the keyboard is also the same PHA50. I tried the lx705 in the shop and I liked it quite a bit, but the HP704 is 400 euros cheaper. Are there any other major differences between those two model except the modeling. If this is true 400 euros to spare isn't that bad.

I strongly suggest that you try them side by side. 400 euros difference means totally different sound engines, so probably you'll need to see which one you like the best

Also, my 2 cents on this to help you make up your mind, I have a song which I recorded both in the new and previous sound engine. Maybe it will help you a little bit to get a grasp into how good recordings at least are. Perosnal oppinion: pure acoustic ambience on the newer model really makes a difference as far as the tone goes, and this is really visible given the 2 recordings that you re about to see.

Roland HP605(supernatural piano modeling)

Roland LX7xx (pure acoustic modeling + stone hall ambience) Audio Link

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