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Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? #2836226
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What is the experience of women (and men with smaller hands) on this forum in regards to playing the piano with or without pain?

Has anyone here tried (or own) one of these 7/8 size keyboards?




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Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2836252
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How small are we talking about - what is your reach in terms of intervals? Can you hit an octave? I am only 5'7 and have fairly small hands for a man but have managed to get by on a normal size instrument with fairly advanced repertoire.

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Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2836254
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I had just run across that website for smaller keyboards and had wondered if anyone here had experience with a smaller keyboard like that. I guess pain would be what drives people to pursuing that different size. I wasn't asking in regard to myself. Just curious.

Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2836262
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One of my students had one installed many years ago - she had especially small hands (trouble reaching an octave) and was quite pleased. It worked very well in her grand.

Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2836284
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I contacted the company about the 7/8 keyboards some years ago but it was not possible to get one shipped without fitting it with the piano. I really would like to have one, since I do almost all of my playing on my home piano and that would allow me to practice some repertoire that now makes no sense. Even with my usual pieces I would welcome less discomfort. I have trouble with octaves because of my unusual hand shape, but even 7ths can be uncomfortable in musical context. I can reach some of the larger intervals because I am also hypermobile, but voicing in these maximum streches creates tension which aggravates my wrist problems. Fortunately I found an older piano with a slightly smaller keys and less than average key drop. I feel less threatened by injury when practicing with it.

Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2836483
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I live in the Seattle area and someone in Vancouver Canada owns one. I contacted her and she allowed me to come to her house to see it. So, I took the ferry and spent the afternoon in Canada. I played on it for 60-90 minutes. Octaves took some getting used to since you are prepared for that interval. You could comfortably reach chords that otherwise you would not be able to reach (I was testing with the Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No 2). The space between the black keys is definitely narrower than a normal keyboard.

I probably didn't give it as thorough a workout as I would before making a purchase decision, but I came away thinking that it was useful.

Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2836951
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That link was blocked. The one I've heard of is:

http://www.steinbuhler.com/index.html


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Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2836957
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I can reach an uncomfortable 9th yet I can play most advanced repertoire. Adjusting to another piano’s touch is enough of a challenge without having to deal with a change in key size. I belong to several piano social groups and every member has a standard piano. There are wonderful Steinway D’s in summer camp and there is one in my teacher’s studio. I’m just not interested in making things more difficult for myself by adapting to a smaller keyboard.

Alas, Beethoven’s Hammerklavier and the Rach concertos are literally out of reach.


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Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2836960
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While some may say that adapting from one keyboard size to another is relatively easy and happens fairly quickly, different keyboard sizes may nevertheless present some difficulties. If one practices continuously on a 7/8 size keyboard and then has to perform on a standard size keyboard without the chance to practice on that standard keyboard, there may be some difficult and uncomfortable moments in the performance. In other words, adapting from one to the other, although easy and quick (for some) may not be instantaneous when an immediate adapting is necessary.

As Deborah points out, we pianists who can't carry our instruments with us have to adapt to whatever is put before us, some jewels, some tanks and some instruments that are out of tune and have not been regulated. It's enough to cope with those changes without having to try to cope with a different keyboard size.

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Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2837004
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I think those with really small hands will adapt easier because the difference will only be between uncomfortable or extreme strech/non playable versus comfort and more rep.

Though it seems those who play historical instruments as well as piano do fine. When I go from my own piano to something more difficult to play, the problem is not so much adapting but the quality of sound and uncomfort/pain.

Fingering is another matter: If I had a smaller keyboard at home, would I simplify my fingerings and then find I cannot play all the notes on a normal keyboard? Not much of an issue for an amateur who does not perform though...

Re: Small acoustic keyboard for smaller hands? [Re: DutchTea] #2837271
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This may be a good solution for those whose hands are so small that they're going to give up on playing conventional instruments. If it's a question of using the small board or not playing at all, the option is worth having.


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