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Have you tried practicing underwater?
#2833228 03/31/19 02:05 AM
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It's a rather silly question but after coming across odd methods used to improve technique I wonder if there are some that actually work

using wine corks to stretch the fingers (Chopin)

used a finger strengthener (Schumann)

laying down on the bench so you are forced to reach and claims "the swimming pool is the best spot to practice because the water has a lot of resistance" (Trifonov)

Playing in a dark room and/or with the radio on while soaking hands in hot water in-between sessions (Gould)

Using surgery gloves or rubber-bands or a heavier piano

Mediation to visualize the performance

Performance practice right after waking up in the middle of the night

What about performance enhancing drugs for increasing memory, creativity, and focus? Beta-blocking drugs?


I personally work through a piece 2 sections at a time in slow-motion prior to an attempted recording.

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I have indeed...although not with a piano. I always do finger and arm exercises when pool running. I have also played with surgery gloves at one point, when my hands could not bare touching the keys.

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I often practice with a blindfold and my hands tied behind my back.


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Visualization. Yes. And coffee.


Once I tried surgery gloves, an awful experience.

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I practice while eating fried chicken with my hands. This makes my legato more beautiful.

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I also watch this commercial for more emotional playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gspElv1yvc

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First figure out musicality. grin

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I practice while eating fried chicken with my hands. This makes my legato more beautiful.



I am sure it is "finger lickin' good".



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I practice while eating fried chicken with my hands. This makes my legato more beautiful.



I am sure it is "finger lickin' good".


It's the best method to play octave glissando.


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Surely practising underwater would rust the piano strings? Just a thought.

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Chopin did not use corks! Do not use corks.

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I practice while eating fried chicken with my hands. This makes my legato more beautiful.



I am sure it is "finger lickin' good".


It's the best method to play octave glissando.

The idea of my piano keys being coated with a layer of fried chicken grease unsettles me greatly.


I've started playing January 2017, Nothing is too easy is where I keep track of my progress.

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Fried chicken grease is better than human (or even dog) saliva, which is what some pianists use to grease their finger(nail)s prior to glissandi.

At least, I think it is.......


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Originally Posted by baudelairepianist
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used a finger strengthener (Schumann)


... and look what happened to Schumann's performing career!


Originally Posted by baudelairepianist


Playing in a dark room [...]


That might have some merit, or playing blindfolded.
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Mediation to visualize the performance


Mediation? Don't you mean meditation? Visualizing the score away from the piano is helpful, so I'm told.

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I'm disappointed. I thought this was going to be an April fool's thread.... ;-)


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OK, it is my coming out - I practiced blindfolded, I practiced with ping pong ball, as advised by Paul Barton for Chopin Etude op 10 No 2, I practiced with a big soft ball under my palm to release tension for lateral movements, I practiced with a coin put at the top of the palm to minimize unnecesarry movements during playing harpsichord repertoire, I practiced with wirst weights, to check if I do not apply unnecessary tension instead of letting gravity force do the job, I practiced - at the upright piano - a very slow, and soft ppp to catch the moment where the key releases hammers, and how they come back to their position. I cannot recollect more sins with regards to strange methods of practice.


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Seriously, I really enjoy playing in the dark. Obviously it has to be from memory. There's something special about it.

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At first glance I read this as “have you tried practicing in underwear”. *looks around* No...

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Originally Posted by Chrispy
At first glance I read this as “have you tried practicing in underwear”. *looks around* No...

laugh laugh laugh lol

It's probably worth trying first of all. Must be very liberating experience... lol

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Originally Posted by Chrispy
At first glance I read this as “have you tried practicing in underwear”. *looks around* No...

You've got company!
(So to speak.) ha

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