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Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings #2820617
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Hello everyone,

I'd like to open a thread for owners of new Roland LX700 series pianos. I think this forum might be a nice starting point for people testing out various settings to get the perfect sound of Roland digital pianos.

Owning a HP605 before, I had the feeling that the default settings were just fine at the previous generation. However, on my LX708 I liked more to tweak the sound to get the most "accurate" sound to my ears. I especially like European Grand V2 ( it seems to have a wider dynamic range ) and I also played with the ambience settings. With the default settings, my personal oppinion is that the sounds tend to get blended in too much, and right hand seems not to have enough power to really sing along with the left hand.

I will share here my "perfect" configuration until now with the things I've changed apart from default settings.


  • recommended volume level: 41
  • piano type: European V2
  • ambience: Lounge
  • ambience depth: 8
  • touch sensivity: 49
  • lid: 5
  • duplex scale: +4
  • hammer sound: +1
  • soundboard: 5
  • tone character:C4# character changed to +2 from 0 ( I find the default C4# character to sound bad on speakers )


I find this setting to sound 90% similar to the tone of a concert Steinway from a video by Yann Tiersen, which I especially like. I'm waiting for other interesting configurations to try them out from other users smile

PS: link to the video mentioned above for you to make a comparison https://youtu.be/1LluM75bYf0?t=374


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2820628
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With headphones or without? Or no difference?


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: Colin Miles] #2820630
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Originally Posted by Colin Miles
With headphones or without? Or no difference?

I think if one decides there's a big enough difference, that could be added. The setting I've shared for me was designed first to work best with speakers to get an authentic piano sound. I also like it with headphones as well, so for me it's like a general setting which I love on both modes.


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2820748
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Hi, I think what you're describing:
With the default settings, my personal oppinion is that the sounds tend to get blended in too much, and right hand seems not to have enough power to really sing along with the left hand.

Is much the same as I am experiencing with my DP603. I am also after a more open sound and find changing the soundboard to 5 seems to help. I'll just try your settings on my piano for interest.

Mine is the thread on Roland dp603 and Piano Designer settings


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: Robhatherton] #2820851
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Originally Posted by Robhatherton
Hi, I think what you're describing:
With the default settings, my personal oppinion is that the sounds tend to get blended in too much, and right hand seems not to have enough power to really sing along with the left hand.

Is much the same as I am experiencing with my DP603. I am also after a more open sound and find changing the soundboard to 5 seems to help. I'll just try your settings on my piano for interest.

Mine is the thread on Roland dp603 and Piano Designer settings

Please go ahead. Also, I forgot a few things to add into my settings.

  • brilliance: +1
  • cabinet resonance: 3


www.youtube.com/channel/UC073i6RnxK4NcnoFp1jYh7Q The place where I ocasionally post my amateur recordings smile
Criticism is welcomed since it helps improving and going forward.

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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2831724
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Hello all,

In case anyone missed this - there was an update for the LX705/6/8 on the Roland site badged as Ver.1.04 March 2019:

https://www.roland.com/global/support/by_product/lx708/updates_drivers/


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2831846
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Hey, does anybody have some tips to recreate the "ballad piano" of the previous generation on the LX 706?

Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2833209
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Hello,

Does anyone know where we can download custom LX700 modeled piano tone files?

I want in particular modeled rag time/honky tonk piano. I tried to detune each note but I failed miserably. It sounded awful and nothing like honky tonk. lol Anyone here created their own modeled honky tonk or any guidelines on how to customize one?

TIA!


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2833213
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. . . I want in particular modeled rag time/honky tonk piano. I tried to detune each note but I failed miserably. It sounded awful and nothing like honky tonk. . . .


I'm pretty sure that, for a decent "honky-tonk" sound, you need to detune _each string_, not each note. That is, the three strings on C5 will be at slightly different pitches. (You can do that with a "chorus" effect, I think, or in the original sound samples).

Pianoteq (a modelled VST) has a "Condition" slider, that lets you go from "perfectly in-tune" to "horribly out-of-tune". And that control _does_ randomly detune string-by-string. So that C5 isn't just out-of-tune with C4 and C6, it's out-of-tune with itself.


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2833404
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Charles,

Thanks for the input. It doesn't look like my LX708 can detune individual strings of the same note. I did further readings on honky tonk tuning and it's beyond my understanding and ears to tweak in a timely manner. I rather use that time and learn how to play Maple Leaf Rag. hehe...

I guess I'll stick to the sampled honky tonk for now but I don't use it too long because it just sounds ok.

I hope someone on here has done it already and share the settings. smile


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2834178
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Originally Posted by tudor33sud
Originally Posted by Robhatherton
Hi, I think what you're describing:
With the default settings, my personal oppinion is that the sounds tend to get blended in too much, and right hand seems not to have enough power to really sing along with the left hand.

Is much the same as I am experiencing with my DP603. I am also after a more open sound and find changing the soundboard to 5 seems to help. I'll just try your settings on my piano for interest.

Mine is the thread on Roland dp603 and Piano Designer settings

Please go ahead. Also, I forgot a few things to add into my settings.

  • brilliance: +1
  • cabinet resonance: 3




Looks like "European V2 + soundboard 5" combination is real hit. I like it most of all too (but I recieced my piano only yesterday, so, it may be not the final judgement).
But why is cabinet resonance so low?

Last edited by PianoStartsAt33; 04/02/19 08:08 AM.

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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: PianoStartsAt33] #2834179
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Originally Posted by PianoStartsAt33
Originally Posted by tudor33sud
Originally Posted by Robhatherton
Hi, I think what you're describing:
With the default settings, my personal oppinion is that the sounds tend to get blended in too much, and right hand seems not to have enough power to really sing along with the left hand.

Is much the same as I am experiencing with my DP603. I am also after a more open sound and find changing the soundboard to 5 seems to help. I'll just try your settings on my piano for interest.

Mine is the thread on Roland dp603 and Piano Designer settings

Please go ahead. Also, I forgot a few things to add into my settings.

  • brilliance: +1
  • cabinet resonance: 3




Looks like "European V2 + soundboard 5" combination is real hit. I like it most of all too (but I recieced my piano only yesterday, so, it may be not the final judgement).
But way is cabinet resonance so low?

I found cabinet resonance to affect the sound pretty much to my ears, thus making the tone very muddy and unclear. I pretty much respect a piano which can sound even and being able to hear a note, why also remaining towards a mellow tone ( this is why soundboard 5 I think fits best the european grand ). I'm very happy to hear that you also enjoy the same setting as I do, please let us know if you find anything else catchy! laugh

Last edited by tudor33sud; 04/02/19 08:01 AM.

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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2834181
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Originally Posted by tudor33sud
Originally Posted by PianoStartsAt33
Originally Posted by tudor33sud
Originally Posted by Robhatherton
Hi, I think what you're describing:
With the default settings, my personal oppinion is that the sounds tend to get blended in too much, and right hand seems not to have enough power to really sing along with the left hand.

Is much the same as I am experiencing with my DP603. I am also after a more open sound and find changing the soundboard to 5 seems to help. I'll just try your settings on my piano for interest.

Mine is the thread on Roland dp603 and Piano Designer settings

Please go ahead. Also, I forgot a few things to add into my settings.

  • brilliance: +1
  • cabinet resonance: 3




Looks like "European V2 + soundboard 5" combination is real hit. I like it most of all too (but I recieced my piano only yesterday, so, it may be not the final judgement).
But way is cabinet resonance so low?

I found cabinet resonance to affect the sound pretty much to my ears, thus making the tone very muddy and unclear. I pretty much respect a piano which can sound even and being able to hear a note, why also remaining towards a mellow tone ( this is why soundboard 5 I think fits best the european grand ). I'm very happy to hear that you also enjoy the same setting as I do, please let us know if you find anything else catchy! laugh


OK smile


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2834237
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Originally Posted by PianoStartsAt33

OK smile

Also, one question from me please to you! Could you please tell me if the C4# sounds bad for you on the speakers as well? I find it like it resonates too much through the piano body, so I changed the character. I'm curious if this occurs only on my piano or not. Just try and play these basic notes with the pedal pressed and let me know if C4# sounds too "resonating": C4# G5# C5# . Thank you very much!


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OK smile

Also, one question from me please to you! Could you please tell me if the C4# sounds bad for you on the speakers as well? I find it like it resonates too much through the piano body, so I changed the character. I'm curious if this occurs only on my piano or not. Just try and play these basic notes with the pedal pressed and let me know if C4# sounds too "resonating": C4# G5# C5# . Thank you very much!


Just checked this. No, I didn't find any problems with C#4. I spent a lot of time changing notes character on FP-90, my previous DP. But here on LX-706 it sems better, the sound is more even.


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OK smile

Also, one question from me please to you! Could you please tell me if the C4# sounds bad for you on the speakers as well? I find it like it resonates too much through the piano body, so I changed the character. I'm curious if this occurs only on my piano or not. Just try and play these basic notes with the pedal pressed and let me know if C4# sounds too "resonating": C4# G5# C5# . Thank you very much!


Just checked this. No, I didn't find any problems with C#4. I spent a lot of time changing notes character on FP-90, my previous DP. But here on LX-706 it sems better, the sound is more even.

Thank you! Then I guess it should be just my ear. I just retried it and noticed that through simple pressing of the key is not that obvious, so probably the 2 songs I play on it sound strange because of that, otherwise the note itself should be fine. Thanks again for trying this for me smile


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Re: Roland LX700 Series Tone Settings [Re: tudor33sud] #2834749
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Originally Posted by tudor33sud
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OK smile

Also, one question from me please to you! Could you please tell me if the C4# sounds bad for you on the speakers as well? I find it like it resonates too much through the piano body, so I changed the character. I'm curious if this occurs only on my piano or not. Just try and play these basic notes with the pedal pressed and let me know if C4# sounds too "resonating": C4# G5# C5# . Thank you very much!


Just checked this. No, I didn't find any problems with C#4. I spent a lot of time changing notes character on FP-90, my previous DP. But here on LX-706 it sems better, the sound is more even.

Thank you! Then I guess it should be just my ear. I just retried it and noticed that through simple pressing of the key is not that obvious, so probably the 2 songs I play on it sound strange because of that, otherwise the note itself should be fine. Thanks again for trying this for me smile



Tell me please, have you installed Ver.1.04 March 2019 update from Roland's site? They say "The operation of [Piano Tone Edit] - [Single Note Character] was improved". I wonder was has this improvement resulted in?


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Yes, I did update the software to 1.04. I had 1.02 previously and it had this issue that I couldn t control transpose if I were in other menus playing around. Related to note character, I didn t notice any change in that setting using piano controls. Maybe this helps when used with a tablet ? Not really sure... however the update didn t break anything, and now you can easily transpose being in other menus.


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Also, one more thing to note related to software 1.04, I really seem to enjoy the new setting for Haptic Feedback very large. Previously I rarely felt the haptic feedback while playing, however with very large setting it seems better for me. You should try it as well.


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Originally Posted by tudor33sud
Also, one more thing to note related to software 1.04, I really seem to enjoy the new setting for Haptic Feedback very large. Previously I rarely felt the haptic feedback while playing, however with very large setting it seems better for me. You should try it as well.

Aha! The haptic settings finally do something! laugh


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