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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831006
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Here's a video I found. Though he didn't mention about the action besides saying its a different action.


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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831017
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Yes, I saw that one. Not really a review, but at least if you live nearby, you can walk inside and try out. In my country they do not even talk about the Px-s1000, and you cannot try or buy it, hence I am waiting for real reviews. I can try Roland, the older Casio and Kawai, which I will do soon. The only reason for following this thread was the "excitement" that was created around the form factor and newly designed Hammer keybed of the Px-s1000, in combination with the low price point, but I start to realise that they meant, it is a remarkable keybed action considering the small form factor, but not "better" keybed action, just great achievement to put it into a small console.

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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: FlexHank] #2831028
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They should have just made it a 1/2" deeper (1.25cm). I don't think anyone would complain that it was too big.


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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: Steve.L] #2831033
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Originally Posted by Steve.L
It's just one man's opinion, I know, but this post claims it's unlike previous Casio keyboards:

https://yamahamusicians.com/forum/v...=eefa9e73ad730039fae6b2ae42d0eda0#p74210


I think he was hired by Casio to promote those new models. From what I gather he mostly plays synth key, and has very little experience with weighted actions. I played the new Casio CDP-S100, which is supposed to have the same key mechanism, and it feels like an entry level action, with short black keys (harder to press toward the back of the key).

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: PwYm] #2831181
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Originally Posted by PwYm


I think he was hired by Casio to promote those new models. From what I gather he mostly plays synth key, and has very little experience with weighted actions. I played the new Casio CDP-S100, which is supposed to have the same key mechanism, and it feels like an entry level action, with short black keys (harder to press toward the back of the key).



No he was not hired or paid in any way to promote Casio keyboards.

As has been said previously in this thread, PX-S series is not the same action as the CDP-S series.


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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831202
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Mike, nothing anyone can say will stop people from pontificating on things they know nothing about. Its the way of the internet. Its amazing how many experts there are on boards that haven't even shipped yet. When they are finally proven wrong in pictures, then they will whip out there magical ears as the ultimate UN-provable claim of superiority. Good luck on the new products, CASIO gets better with each new release.


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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831222
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Casio always was the best bang for the buck. What I really love about Casio is however the secondary market. You can pickup used PX-150 or 160 for a song. And for the current used prices it is unbeatable by any other maker. But that is also a double-sided sword. It means if you buy new casio you won't be able to get much if you want to sell it. Even the bestbuy models like CDP 200 are absolutely superb deals when bought used. I've got used CDP for $50 and that was CAD, not USD. There is just no way you going to beat that with yamaha, roland or anything like that. Nobody will sell that low. Even the Medeli made Korgs are more expensive and I would always take Casio than Korgs keyboard.
Even if you buy any of those CDP or,PX just as a midi keyboard and never play their sounds the action beats all the weighted m-audio etc for under $600 by miles.
The new S1000 while it has big sticker now would be even more desirable through secondary market as a superb midi keyboard due to its compact size. I am glad that casio understands its place now as a quality yet budget option. They tried for the high street with GDP - but let's be honest - how many concert halls are replacing their yamahas or kawais with casio?

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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831247
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Just watched this, upside down and backwards, he likes it. I'm considering this or the 3000 for dorm use, son needs to ramp up to level iii / iv proficiency, hoping this would help. Better I/o than Fp30 or es 110.



Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831314
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The sound is good, but for the action they could at least make longer pivot, like in the roland LX708.

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831425
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Watching this last video (2 posts up), I thought it was remarkable how close to the fallboard he is playing most of the time - those keys can't be that hard to play near the pivot with the type of music that he has chosen -
- Gerhard


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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: gerhard_k] #2831426
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Originally Posted by gerhard_k
Watching this last video (2 posts up), I thought it was remarkable how close to the fallboard he is playing most of the time - those keys can't be that hard to play near the pivot with the type of music that he has chosen -
- Gerhard

This is a good point. Watching the upside down video, and how he presses the keys so close to the fallboard, I keep thinking that someone at his skill level would probably not gush so much about how awesome it is if it was really that hard to control the keys close to the fallboard. (Either that or else Casio is paying him! laugh )


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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831433
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Mitchell Milkov on youtube been posting few videos of him practice chopin nocturne with the px-s1000.

Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2831435
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

This is a good point. Watching the upside down video, and how he presses the keys so close to the fallboard, I keep thinking that someone at his skill level would probably not gush so much about how awesome it is if it was really that hard to control the keys close to the fallboard. (Either that or else Casio is paying him! laugh )


I don't know about that. Really great, experienced pianists, especially gigging artists, can and do make anything work, and I find they're often WAY less picky than enthusiasts like us who are hanging out on forums all day nitpicking pivot lengths smile

I remember seeing a video of some cat just having a blast rocking up and down a P-115 (which has an atrocious pivot length) and a PX-160, all smiles and compliments the entire way through.


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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: Gombessa] #2831486
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Originally Posted by Gombessa
Really great, experienced pianists, especially gigging artists, can and do make anything work, and I find they're often WAY less picky than enthusiasts like us who are hanging out on forums all day nitpicking pivot lengths smile

I remember seeing a video of some cat just having a blast rocking up and down a P-115 (which has an atrocious pivot length) and a PX-160, all smiles and compliments the entire way through.


This!

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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: Kawai James] #2831526
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Originally Posted by Gombessa
Really great, experienced pianists, especially gigging artists, can and do make anything work, and I find they're often WAY less picky than enthusiasts like us who are hanging out on forums all day nitpicking pivot lengths smile

I remember seeing a video of some cat just having a blast rocking up and down a P-115 (which has an atrocious pivot length) and a PX-160, all smiles and compliments the entire way through.


This!

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I don't know dudes! That Chopin Black Key Etude he plays from the ceiling at 5:17 looks brutal if the keys are that hard to press near the fallboard!



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Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2831530
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
This is a good point. Watching the upside down video, and how he presses the keys so close to the fallboard, I keep thinking that someone at his skill level would probably not gush so much about how awesome it is if it was really that hard to control the keys close to the fallboard. (Either that or else Casio is paying him! laugh )

I just watched the upside down video and all I see is the usual ocean of loud and fast notes with pedal down, because those hide tone generator deficiencies best. The typical show off a dealer does trying to sell you a piano.

I've yet to see someone practicing a slow and quiet polyphonic piece with distinct voicing, played without pedal near the fallboard. How hard could it be?


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Originally Posted by JoeT
I've yet to see someone practicing a slow and quiet polyphonic piece with distinct voicing, played without pedal near the fallboard. How hard could it be?

Well, there's Für Elise at 3:44, but that's not near the fallboard.


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"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by JoeT
I've yet to see someone practicing a slow and quiet polyphonic piece with distinct voicing, played without pedal near the fallboard. How hard could it be?

Well, there's Für Elise at 3:44, but that's not near the fallboard.

Is Für Elise this a polyphonic piece played without pedal? (No, it's a monophonic melody accompanied by broken chords and played with lots of pedal.)


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Originally Posted by JoeT
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I've yet to see someone practicing a slow and quiet polyphonic piece with distinct voicing, played without pedal near the fallboard. How hard could it be?

Well, there's Für Elise at 3:44, but that's not near the fallboard.

Is Für Elise this a polyphonic piece played without pedal? (No, it's a monophonic melody accompanied by broken chords and played with lots of pedal.)

Sorry, you're right. I was fixated on your word "slow." Well, you could buy one and show us such a demo wink


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: Casio PRIVIA PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 [Re: halherta] #2831542
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Not impressed myself tone-wise by the upside-down demo, but if you go to the guy's youtube channel (well, I think it's his channel -not plugging it, no relation etc.) he has recorded some Chopin nocturnes which I think give an indication of how it sounds on slower pieces.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCblVv-IaNKWfC5cI7tQ2c3w
Not exactly bowled over by it myself (but I'm probably one of the few people in the world who if given a Steinway grand would cash-in and buy an upright, a house, car etc. with the proceeds), but see for yourselves.


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