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After +300 posts on the new casio px models, hasn’t anyone yet had the opportunity to test this keyboard? At least a comparison of how it feels compared to the action on the previous px generation. Few people have gotten their hands on one. I believe the 1000 has only been shipping for a few days, and the 3000 is not shipping yet. Which pretty much leaves you with those who tried it at NAMM. Though to the extent that the new PX models feel like the new CDP-S100, which I played very briefly, I would say it feels a lot like the previous generation PX. So if you liked that, you'll probably like this; and if you hated that, probably not.
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He also says he's not a pianist, if I remember correctly. Whatever that is worth...not much I guess.
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It's just one man's opinion, I know, but this post claims it's unlike previous Casio keyboards It's definitely a different design. Obviously, it's more compact. But the question I was answering was about what it feels like. Despite the fact that it is a different physical design, I think it still feels similar to the previous generation (though that's just an overall impression, I didn't actually have the two side by side). And considering how many people like that feel, the fact that they could even come up with a design that feels similar but results in a board that is smaller, lighter, and cheaper ain't a bad thing. I didn't play it enough to notice, but I've seen where it was said that the keys have less bounce, too. So it does seem like an improvement... but it still basically feels pretty similar, IMO. That said, the version in the PX-S1000 and PX-S3000 have "smart" digital enhancements that improve playability compared to the version in the CDP-S100. I don't know if there is any physical difference in the keys (i.e. if you would notice a different feel between the CDP-S100 and the PX-S1000/S3000 if the power were off), but there should at least be an improvement in the way the Privia version plays even if it "feels" the same.
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After +300 posts on the new casio px models, hasn’t anyone yet had the opportunity to test this keyboard? At least a comparison of how it feels compared to the action on the previous px generation. I will have a go this this week and will feedback. I am not a pro, but I have an older Casio slab so I can compare.
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Perhaps the keys are the same length and pivot point as before they are simply closer to the back wall of the housing.
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Find 660 of Harry's solo piano arrangements for educational purposes and jazz tutorials at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book."
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I own a PX-360 and have a PX-3000 on order. I am going to do a careful side by side when it arrives. I have owned over two dozen digital pianos over the past 25 years including Yamaha, Kawai, Roland, Kurzweil; countless synths, also a Fender Rhodes, a Wurlitzer 140, and an acoustic Mason and Hamlin.
Find 660 of Harry's solo piano arrangements for educational purposes and jazz tutorials at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book."
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Find 660 of Harry's solo piano arrangements for educational purposes and jazz tutorials at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book."
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Perhaps the keys are the same length and pivot point as before they are simply closer to the back wall of the housing. There was an action profile diagram that showed a distinctly shorter pivot (it's in this thread), though I have no idea what the provenance of the diagram was. Assuming that's a genuine image, I don't think it's just a matter of reducing the clearance between the back of the frame and the action.
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What struck me about the video rintincop posted is the two guys in video have smiles on there faces and seem to enjoy playing them. I bet neither of them are worrying about the pivot point.
A long long time ago, I can still remember How that music used to make me smile....
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What struck me about the video rintincop posted is the two guys in video have smiles on there faces and seem to enjoy playing them. I bet neither of them are worrying about the pivot point. Was thinking the same! I was looking for passages where the action might have limited the players, but seemed like the keyboard gave them everything their fingers asked for!
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Find 660 of Harry's solo piano arrangements for educational purposes and jazz tutorials at https://www.patreon.com/HarryLikas Harry was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book."
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That video has already been posted. It’s a very nice jazz playing by a pro guy. However the more I listen to these demos, the more I find the piano sound dull and uninspiring. In that regard it reminds me so much of Pianoteq I would have sworn the piano engine in the Casio is modeled. But I guess it’s rather poor sampling that’s to fault. Or maybe they had to fit into something like 1MB for the entire piano. Of course: IMO
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Many people like pianoteq, so that it is not a problem.
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Many people like pianoteq, so that it is not a problem. Sure! So maybe they did it on purpose and sampled Pianoteq?
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Many people like pianoteq, so that it is not a problem. Sure! So maybe they did it on purpose and sampled Pianoteq? Really? But isn't Pianoteq just a model of Garritan?
across the stone, deathless piano performances "Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano "Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person "Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
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Many people like pianoteq, so that it is not a problem. Sure! So maybe they did it on purpose and sampled Pianoteq? Really? But isn't Pianoteq just a model of Garritan? Indeed. And Garritan were named after the Grotrian patch in Pianoteq.
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On YouTube, the first end-user reviews are starting to pop-up, and maybe it is cognitive dissonance, but they all praise the keybed action as very expressive for classical piano playing. Soon one of the piano purist on this forum will have a crack on it :-) hope to see a deep review. I am just an amateur...
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Soon one of the piano purist on this forum will have a crack on it :-) hope to see a deep review. I am just an amateur... And no matter how good it is, it will be bad.
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On YouTube, the first end-user reviews are starting to pop-up, and maybe it is cognitive dissonance, but they all praise the keybed action as very expressive for classical piano playing. Soon one of the piano purist on this forum will have a crack on it :-) hope to see a deep review. I am just an amateur... It's all relative though, people praise Medeli toys as well and never touched a real digital piano.
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