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Tips on sourcing a rebuildable core? #2826756
03/14/19 01:07 PM
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Greetings from the UK. We (church, working with a rebuilder here) have been looking for a rebuildable concert grand core for a total rebuild. The concept, which I am sure is what everyone is trying to do, is to find the worst possible rebuildable core and to use the bulk of the comparably modest budget for the best possible rebuild. Thus far, a 1901 Steinway D we had a line on turned out to be unrepairable with a bad plate crack. Other possibilities have not worked out. The catalogue for the next London auction has come out, and there is not much that really inspires me. I also find that I am actually more drawn towards the rich/complex typically American sound rather than the pure/transparent typically European sound.

Given these realities, we are expanding the search to the US (preferably NY D, but possibly Baldwin SD6/10 or Mason and Hamlin CC/2). Forgive me if this question violates some unspoken rule in the business, but how/where does one source a rebuildable core in the US? I have of course been on ebay and I have spoken to a couple of "brokers", but it seems that there must be more out there than I am currently able to tap into.

If anyone might want to help a pianoworld friend in need but not necessarily the competition, please pm me. Thanks very much for your help.


1926 Steinway R (138cm upright rebuilt in 2015)
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Re: Tips on sourcing a rebuildable core? [Re: Erchoukyrie] #2826972
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You might try Jaymart Piano Wholesalers. They're on the web. Talk to Irv Jacobi. I've bought rebuildable concert grand cores from him on occasion.

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Re: Tips on sourcing a rebuildable core? [Re: Erchoukyrie] #2826976
03/14/19 10:28 PM
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If you really want your budget to go far, stay away from the Big name brands and go for some forgotten ones. There were a few brands that made outstanding pianos . Plus keep this in mind, it is terribly difficult to sell a 9' grand. I often see them for free. Saw a Baldwin 9' for a couple hundred bucks not too long ago. Some names to look for are Weber, Everett, Conover, Knabe. Some Large Chickering models can be excellent when restored properly. BTW certain years of Conover are in fact M&H pianos but with another name.
Good Luck!
-chris


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Re: Tips on sourcing a rebuildable core? [Re: Erchoukyrie] #2827020
03/15/19 03:24 AM
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For a core in U.K. call Besbrode Pianos in Leeds.

Many dealers in new pianos have to take an ancient concert grand in "part exchange " when they sell a new Yamaha or something of the sort. Those are generally little more than cores and the dealer is delighted to see the truck tail lights when they go.


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Re: Tips on sourcing a rebuildable core? [Re: Erchoukyrie] #2827222
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You might check with either Lindeblad or Chupp's in the US. I see them list "to be restored" pianos on their websites. Lindeblad will then break down the various recommended restoration steps and the prices.

Re: Tips on sourcing a rebuildable core? [Re: Erchoukyrie] #2827620
03/16/19 04:36 PM
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Thanks everyone for all the valuable tips. I have actioning most of them (great to talk to Irv Jacoby, Eli Ruzorsky and the guys at Besprode). I think I have found something; ironically, the one that is most likely is just one of the D's that was previously on Ebay for some time.

Chernobieff, I really did consider a 1955 Baldwin SD6. If it was for $200 like the one you saw rather than for $7,000, I would have gone that route!


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Re: Tips on sourcing a rebuildable core? [Re: Erchoukyrie] #2827642
03/16/19 05:32 PM
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Just one more comment: I have noticed that, while the main American Steinway alternatives (Mason and Hamlin, Baldwin) are largely unknown and undervalued here in the UK, the reverse seems not to be true at all. Bechsteins, Bluthners, Bosendorfers and Grotrians are all selling for near-Steinway money in the US. If I were an enterprising shop, I would buy some of the 3 Bs and a G cores selling for GBP£ four figures that I have passed up (because, again, I happen to have a disinclination towards the European sound) from the UK and ship them to the US.
See http://www.pianoauctions.co.uk/catalogue.php


1926 Steinway R (138cm upright rebuilt in 2015)
Re: Tips on sourcing a rebuildable core? [Re: Erchoukyrie] #2827759
03/17/19 06:49 AM
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Sometimes furniture storage places get lumbered with old pianos. Always worth a call.


Currently working towards "Twinkle twinkle little star"

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