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W Hoffmann professional range #2826836
03/14/19 04:58 PM
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Hello,
I'am going to buy a new upright piano. I'am very interested in the W Hoffmann range, particularly the WH professional range. I also like the Bechstein pianos, but my budget does not go so far.
I would like to get a 120 cm high.
I am interested in the WH Pro 120. Does anybody own this piano ? Did anyone try it ?
Is it worth compared with the tradition T122 and the vision 120 V120 ?
A sales assistant told me the prices of the WH Pro models are pretty close to the first models of Bechstein and that the best idea would be to extend my budget to get a Bechstein instead. Is it worth to shift from à WH pro 120 or 126 to a Bechstein 112 or 114 ?
Thanks for any comment, advice or feedback.

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Re: W Hoffmann professional range [Re: Dover63] #2826873
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I tried a W HOFFMAN 122 Tradition .I thought the tone and touch very nice.I also tried the C BECHSTEIN K8 which was wonderful !
That piano was also above what we could afford.
For you its a difficult decision -a smaller Bechstein or a tall W Hoffman.
Taller pianos are usually considered better because of a bigger soundboard and longer strings .So you have to decide .

Re: W Hoffmann professional range [Re: Dover63] #2827019
03/15/19 03:08 AM
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In this kind of scenario you have to just go for the piano you like the best. The thing is that a taller piano can sound better in the bass (not always but mostly), but a premium piano like Bechstein may sing better over all, and may have a better balanced voice throughout the compass of the keyboard.

I haven't tried either piano in a long time so I don't remember.

Re: W Hoffmann professional range [Re: Dover63] #2827032
03/15/19 04:28 AM
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Hello Dover,

I wrote about my "quest" about a year ago and am now living with a W Hoffmann P120 smile

I was going for the v126 which is an excellent value-for-money "Bechstein" piano. Before placing the order I changed my order for the P120 and took a leap of faith without having played (or heard) the P120 at a shop.

As I wrote at the other thread, the decision was made because I wanted to replace the golden fittings of the V126 with chrome and the price went near the P120. So I eventually went down in height but got a better (in specs) instrument. Professional voicing, agraffes and reinforced material for extra "stability" in changes of weather.

I am not a professional piano player, music is not even my job.

This piano is an instrument to connect to, a valuable company and friend, you just have to touch it, it's so light and sensitive to the hand. And very loud, lids closed even at 120cm! My living room is about 30m2, maybe a bit more. What a bass! In all it's black colour, the silver fittings, the modern furniture (compare it to the T series), it's all there waiting for me everytime I get home.

Send me a private msg if you want to see a couple of small videos I recorded with my mobile.

jim


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Re: W Hoffmann professional range [Re: Dover63] #2827607
03/16/19 04:09 PM
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Hi Dover
I tried the V131 in the store and really liked it. Very nice action and tone. I also tried the a P126, which I liked this even more particularly the chrome trim on the P series instead of the gold trim on the V series.
If you like the sound and volume of the P120, this seems like a good piano to go for, and Jimbeam who now owns one is also vouching for that.
Good luck with your purchase

Re: W Hoffmann professional range [Re: Dover63] #2827677
03/16/19 07:20 PM
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The only W Hoffmann I have ever tried was a V126, and only a single example of that model, so I have no idea how it compares with the higher ranges of Hoffmann uprights. I did get to compare it with the B124* upright from the Bechstein family though. There was a B124 right beside the V126 and I also got to try a B124 at another dealer. Of the two pianos side by side I actually think I preferred the Hoffmann, and I certainly thought it was better value. The fit and finish also seemed equally good and the only area in which it was obvious to me that cheaper materials had been used in the Hoffmann was the keytops, which were not as grainy and pleasantly tactile as the Bechstein's. I liked the B124 at the other dealer better - it was also more expensive there and possibly had had more effort put into its preparation. I still don't think for me that it would have justified the price premium over the V126 though.

I was impressed enough by the V126 that after months of trying pianos and having sampled a large number of uprights and small grands both new and used, some up to twice the price of the V126, I had got down to a final decision between that piano and the slightly more expensive Kawai K600. Then, just as I was about to decide, a small grand piano came up from a private seller, a 2002 Feurich F172, and I ended up buying that piano. It cost about 50% more than either of the new uprights would have but was still within my original search budget. I still don't know which of the Kawai or Hoffmann I would have chosen but I am sure I would have been very happy with either. So, long story short, I really liked the V126.

(*This upright was from Bechstein's lower range, which they differentiated from the upper range by calling it 'Bechstein' instead of 'C.Bechstein'. I think they have now taken to calling this lower range C.Bechstein Academy or something.)

Re: W Hoffmann professional range [Re: Dover63] #2829223
03/20/19 07:32 PM
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When I was piano shopping I tried the Bechstein Academy and the W. Hoffman. I ended up buying the Bechstein (which I'm very happy with) but the W. Hoffman wasn't a bad piano by any means. It turns out the manager of the store, who should know a thing or two about pianos, owns a W Hoffman and he said he loves it. You have to find "your" piano and, if that piano is a W Hoffman, you won't go wrong.

Re: W Hoffmann professional range [Re: Dover63] #2829315
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I thought they were quite decent. I tried a few during my search for a grand. I was pleased with its action in particular.

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