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Re: Substitutes for Fur Elise or Moonlight [Re: AZNpiano] #2826486
03/13/19 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AZNpiano
Originally Posted by Morodiene
So while playing Mary Had a Little Lamb, you'd work on Pathetique? That is the level of this boy - single note melodies distributed between the hands, with maybe a couple of chords thrown in.

And he insists on learning Moonlight Sonata and Fur Elise?

Tell him it's like trying to do advanced math (Algebra, Geometry, Statistics, Calculus) without knowing how to add and subtract. In fact, show him the math curriculum, and point to where he is--at the bottom--and that in schools it will take about 8 more years to get to Algebra, and 11 more years to get to Calculus. That's measured in YEARS.

I don't get such moronic requests from my students, but once in a blue moon a parent would be dumb enough to ask. The last time that happened, the query came from the kid's grandma. I told her the kid can't even read notes fluently yet after four years of "lessons" from hack teachers. This kid came to me playing Fur Elise (the first section) by rote, and I immediately sent him down to the Primer method book for ZERO reading ability.

Another recent request came from the mother of an advanced student asking for the third movement of Moonlight Sonata, and I just laughed in her face--but in this case the kid is so much further along, so why bother learning something so trite and rudimentary??? We have MUCH more difficult music to work on.

I know! I told him several times and his mother, and they still both requested either Moonlight or Fur Elise. But I decided I am going to refuse this - especially for juries where we want to uphold a standard of kids playing AT their level and not learning by rote.

I never did such a thing. I trusted my teacher and my parents never told her what to teach me.


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Re: Substitutes for Fur Elise or Moonlight [Re: Morodiene] #2826492
03/13/19 06:51 PM
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Don't know if he's quite ready even for this, but I have a "Joy of Beethoven" book edited by Denes Agay that has a lovely little piece called La Marmotte, a few pages before Für Elise. The book is organized progressively, and there are some other easier Beethoven selections as well. These could be "on the way" to the Beethoven pieces they know.


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Re: Substitutes for Fur Elise or Moonlight [Re: Morodiene] #2826493
03/13/19 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Morodiene
But I decided I am going to refuse this - especially for juries where we want to uphold a standard of kids playing AT their level and not learning by rote.

Common sense prevailed!


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