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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On
CyberGene #2825922 03/12/19 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CyberGene

Now, back to N1X, who was the other guy who expected a N1X soon? Was it squidbot? How are things going?


It arrives Thursday morning between 9 and 11 smile They actually had it in the warehouse when I purchased it two weeks ago, but due to my location I had to wait until the delivery service could get to me.


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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On
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When I was shopping (dec), my dealer told me that the piano they sold the most of by far was the NU1X. The reason being institutional sales- apparently music conservatories buy them in pretty large volume, and replace them often.


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Here is a CFX comparison between the internal N1X CFX and my VSL CFX. They both sound good, but I prefer the VSL CFX. It sounds more rich and clearer to me.

I do prefer the N1X Bosendorfer over the N1X CFX.



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Re: Yamaha AvantGrand N1X - Hands On
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I'm looking forward to hearing this comparison. Just btw, I think prefer the P-515 Bodendorfer to it's CFX, too.

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The Bosendorfer has a softer hue to the tone and sounds less "digital". The CFX is more in your face. Based on this video, I too prefer the Bosendorfer.

If the AG was being used in a group, as opposed to playing solo, the CFX would fare better, with regard to more clarity and a better "cutting through" quality in the ensemble. Although I would guess that would be in the very small percentage of AG user applications.

I recently played both a brand new CFX and 280 VC side by side at Keyboard Concepts in the Valley. The difference was eye/hear opening how big a tonal difference there is between the two. While always having been a Yamaha fan- I've owned two in the past - the CFX wasn't in the same ballpark as the Austrian piano.

Thanks for the video comparison.


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Originally Posted by David B
Here is a CFX comparison between the internal N1X CFX and my VSL CFX. They both sound good, but I prefer the VSL CFX. It sounds more rich and clearer to me.

I do prefer the N1X Bosendorfer over the N1X CFX.



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When you play the vst cfx, are you listening to the sound by piano's speakers or the studio monitors?


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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
The Bosendorfer has a softer hue to the tone and sounds less "digital". The CFX is more in your face. Based on this video, I too prefer the Bosendorfer.


You mean the N1X CFX has a softer hue? The Bosendofer was played in the original post of this thread.

Either way, I agree with your observation.

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If the AG was being used in a group, as opposed to playing solo, the CFX would fare better, with regard to more clarity and a better "cutting through" quality in the ensemble. Although I would guess that would be in the very small percentage of AG user applications.


That's a good point. Thanks for sharing.


I'm really impressed with the N1X Bosendorfer sound (in the original post video). It has a very natural feel to it and is very expressive.

All of these sounds are nice, and coupled with the N1X action, the experience is as close as you can get to an acoustic. I'm very happy with this piano. I remember reading about the great joy NV10 owners had as they anticipated playing their pianos everyday. I remember thinking, "I don't feel that way about playing my MP11SE or any other DP for that matter." Now I know what the NV10 owners are feeling. I look forward to playing the N1X everyday and I'm disappointed when it's time to go to work.

Please excuse my religious expressions, but I just have to "Praise The Lord!" It's hard to believe that I own such a nice instrument.

God Bless,
David


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Originally Posted by Jitin

When you play the vst cfx, are you listening to the sound by piano's speakers or the studio monitors?


I play everything through both the internal speakers and external monitors. I view the external monitors as supporting the main speaker system of the N1X. I like the combination.

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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
The Bosendorfer has a softer hue to the tone and sounds less "digital". The CFX is more in your face. Based on this video, I too prefer the Bosendorfer.


You mean the N1X CFX has a softer hue? The Bosendofer was played in the original post of this thread.

Either way, I agree with your observation.

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If the AG was being used in a group, as opposed to playing solo, the CFX would fare better, with regard to more clarity and a better "cutting through" quality in the ensemble. Although I would guess that would be in the very small percentage of AG user applications.


That's a good point. Thanks for sharing.


I'm really impressed with the N1X Bosendorfer sound (in the original post video). It has a very natural feel to it and is very expressive.

All of these sounds are nice, and coupled with the N1X action, the experience is as close as you can get to an acoustic. I'm very happy with this piano. I remember reading about the great joy NV10 owners had as they anticipated playing their pianos everyday. I remember thinking, "I don't feel that way about playing my MP11SE or any other DP for that matter." Now I know what the NV10 owners are feeling. I look forward to playing the N1X everyday and I'm disappointed when it's time to go to work.

Please excuse my religious expressions, but I just have to "Praise The Lord!" It's hard to believe that I own such a nice instrument.

God Bless,
David



Thanks for this post David. I ordered my N1X last week and I have to wait until mid to end of April to receive it (I live in Australia). I’m very excited to play it for the first time...!

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Originally Posted by Dave Ferris
The Bosendorfer has a softer hue to the tone and sounds less "digital". The CFX is more in your face. Based on this video, I too prefer the Bosendorfer.


You mean the N1X CFX has a softer hue? The Bosendofer was played in the original post of this thread.

Either way, I agree with your observation.

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If the AG was being used in a group, as opposed to playing solo, the CFX would fare better, with regard to more clarity and a better "cutting through" quality in the ensemble. Although I would guess that would be in the very small percentage of AG user applications.


That's a good point. Thanks for sharing.


I'm really impressed with the N1X Bosendorfer sound (in the original post video). It has a very natural feel to it and is very expressive.

All of these sounds are nice, and coupled with the N1X action, the experience is as close as you can get to an acoustic. I'm very happy with this piano. I remember reading about the great joy NV10 owners had as they anticipated playing their pianos everyday. I remember thinking, "I don't feel that way about playing my MP11SE or any other DP for that matter." Now I know what the NV10 owners are feeling. I look forward to playing the N1X everyday and I'm disappointed when it's time to go to work.

Please excuse my religious expressions, but I just have to "Praise The Lord!" It's hard to believe that I own such a nice instrument.

God Bless,
David



David have you tried the Bösendorfer grand? How does it compare to the Bösendorfer imperial? I believe in your video you are playing using the bösendorfer imperial right?

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Originally Posted by Harpuia

David have you tried the Bösendorfer grand? How does it compare to the Bösendorfer imperial? I believe in your video you are playing using the bösendorfer imperial right?


That's correct. In the first video in this thread I'm playing the Imperial. I haven't done a comparative analysis yet between the Bosendorfer imperial and Bosendorfer Grand. Mostly I've been playing the Imperial and my VSL samples.

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While owning the NU1X I thought the Bösendorfer wasn’t as bad as some people previously suggested but I vastly preferred the CFX anyway. That’s through headphones though. The binaural CFX is simply superb. But even playing through speakers I still preferred the CFX. It would be interesting to see whether N1X is different in that regard. It’s 4-channel sampled compared to stereo on the N1UX.


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The VSL obviously sounds richer, but I like them both. Perhaps the N1X would sound closer to the VSL with a bit more reverb. I liked the VSL more than I expected I would - earlier demos I'd heard sounded too distant for my taste.

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A little late to this thread - Congratulations David!! Your piano, and room looks awesome. Very nice setup.

I am really glad to know that the builtin audio card is working well with VSTs - that is one thing that I am hoping will come in NV20!

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Current status of my order in Thomann changed to "Your order has been commissioned, and the items are being assembled right now!". What the... What does that mean? Hopefully Yamaha will be able to "assemble" my piano soon frown


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Current status of my order in Thomann changed to "Your order has been commissioned, and the items are being assembled right now!". What the... What does that mean? Hopefully Yamaha will be able to "assemble" my piano soon frown

I bet it's just a funny translation and your items are actually just collected, compiled and assorted right now. laugh


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Current status of my order in Thomann changed to "Your order has been commissioned, and the items are being assembled right now!". What the... What does that mean? Hopefully Yamaha will be able to "assemble" my piano soon frown

It's a translation of the German "Ihre Bestellung wurde kommissioniert und wird gerade zusammengestellt". It means that they are in the process of packing up everything for delivery. The "kommissionieren" and "zusammenstellen" bits essentially mean the same thing: Collect everything that was ordered from storage and assemble it into a delivery package. Of course the wording makes a bit more sense if you ordered more than one item, but I guess it's a bit too complex to have a different boiler plate text for orders with only one item.
So rejoice, it's on its way to you - or will be, very soon. smile

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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Current status of my order in Thomann changed to "Your order has been commissioned, and the items are being assembled right now!". What the... What does that mean? Hopefully Yamaha will be able to "assemble" my piano soon frown

It's a translation of the German "Ihre Bestellung wurde kommissioniert und wird gerade zusammengestellt". It means that they are in the process of packing up everything for delivery. The "kommissionieren" and "zusammenstellen" bits essentially mean the same thing: Collect everything that was ordered from storage and assemble it into a delivery package. Of course the wording makes a bit more sense if you ordered more than one item, but I guess it's a bit too complex to have a different boiler plate text for orders with only one item.
So rejoice, it's on its way to you - or will be, very soon. smile

Wow, thank you! That's a nice surprise, I thought it meant something entirely different! smile


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JoBert: I emailed Thomann, and they've updated the order to say: Ihre Bestellung wurde ausgewählt und an MacMacMac gesendet
Thanks for the nice piano! smile

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My N1X was shipped today. Should arrive in about 7-8 days smile


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