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Where to buy good quality music scores from ? #2823428
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I have been asked to think of some ideas for a new piece for next lesson so have been trying to listen to new things. I want to buy some scores as its nice to expand and want to try some new composers or styles apart from mendelssohn again. unfortunately the last few I've brought on amazon (tended to go for the cheap books or collections etc.) have had no fingerings, big notes with many page turnings or incorrect notes throughout so would like some advice on where to buy the scores for these.

beehoven sonata 17 (tempist) 1st / 3rd movement
chopin polonaise g sharp minor
faure noveletten 1

you can give advice if you like if you have played but will probably rely on my teacher on his recommendation. this time am looking more for where to find the music that is good quality.

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Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: Moo :)] #2823460
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I love Henle editions for everything. I bought my Polonaises from Amazon, and it was even on Prime

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Good quality editions are expensive. But for Beethoven, Henle publishes individual sonatas as well as the complete volumes. Its easier to carry around the individual sonatas too.

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Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: Moo :)] #2823468
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The henle version I could not find on amazon uk. There only was a german version. It was also expensive.


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Polonaises...mp;psc=1&refRID=MD0BQMNMHDEW0Z3D2Q0V

It is only £6 (9 dollars) and has all the polonaise. Is this ok or is the henle better ?

Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: Moo :)] #2823470
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I found a Henle version in english. It is more expensive (£22) and I dont know if it has the piece I want in.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Polonaises-piano-217-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric-Chopin/dp/B000786HD4/ref=pd_sbs_14_1/260-1721177-3809457?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000786HD4&pd_rd_r=26cb8884-4068-11e9-9214-cfe8ba298bf3&pd_rd_w=6k1RI&pd_rd_wg=Atz9M&pf_rd_p=18edf98b-139a-41ee-bb40-d725dd59d1d3&pf_rd_r=H6C8RYGXJ4VQD485EG38&psc=1&refRID=H6C8RYGXJ4VQD485EG38

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Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: Moo :)] #2823472
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Originally Posted by Moo :)
I found a Henle version in english. It is more expensive (£22) and I dont know if it has the piece I want in.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Polonaises-piano-217-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric-Chopin/dp/B000786HD4/ref=pd_sbs_14_1/260-1721177-3809457?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000786HD4&pd_rd_r=26cb8884-4068-11e9-9214-cfe8ba298bf3&pd_rd_w=6k1RI&pd_rd_wg=Atz9M&pf_rd_p=18edf98b-139a-41ee-bb40-d725dd59d1d3&pf_rd_r=H6C8RYGXJ4VQD485EG38&psc=1&refRID=H6C8RYGXJ4VQD485EG38

The table of contents can be seen on the Henle website.


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Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: Moo :)] #2823474
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I'm pretty sure the Henle you found has the G sharp minor. The translations matter if you read the foreword and references etc, but otherwise the language of sheet music is universal smile

I'm not a big fan of Schrimers, I have some of their books but the engraving is not as crisp and difficult to read, and some of the books are difficult to keep open. Sometimes I have to make an extra trip to Office Depot to have the books wire bound. The Henles always stay open with no problem, no matter how thick the book. That plus the luxurious cream colored pages has spoiled me.


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Somewhere like this looks promising: https://www.boosey.com/shop/ or ordering from a bricks & mortar shop (although that’s tricky if you’re not sure which edition). I seem to remember my teachers used to instruct me to buy a specific edition and even back then you could rarely just walk into a shop and buy it off the shelf.

I like Henle for Beethoven. For Chopin I tended to have the Paderewski editions (PWM). I haven’t played much Faure and I don’t remember feeling strongly about the edition.

I haven’t bought much sheet music in ages! I’m using digital subscriptions at the moment mostly to save money, but you really can’t beat paper and a pencil!


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Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: schinl] #2823479
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Originally Posted by schinl
I'm pretty sure the Henle you found has the G sharp minor. The translations matter if you read the foreword and references etc, but otherwise the language of sheet music is universal smile


Are you sure? Wont the musical instructions be in German?

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Originally Posted by Moo :)
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I'm pretty sure the Henle you found has the G sharp minor. The translations matter if you read the foreword and references etc, but otherwise the language of sheet music is universal smile


Are you sure? Wont the musical instructions be in German?


I doubt it. Ours are in Italian. 😊 Oh, except for the Ravel I’ve been playing which is testing my French!

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Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: Moo :)] #2823483
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Originally Posted by Moo :)
Originally Posted by schinl
I'm pretty sure the Henle you found has the G sharp minor. The translations matter if you read the foreword and references etc, but otherwise the language of sheet music is universal smile


Are you sure? Wont the musical instructions be in German?

The couple of Henle's that I've seen have all been in both German and English. I am looking at a Henle edition of Für Elise right this moment and only a few trivial things are in German-only. Everything significant, including the comments at the end are in both languages. There are some things also translated into French, but oddly, not everything (for example, the Preface is in all three languages but the Comments at the end are only in German and English).


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Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: Moo :)] #2823484
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I vote Henle. Also you can download individual scores for very inexpensive prices onto an iPad or similar tablet.


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Re: Where to buy good quality music scores from ? [Re: Moo :)] #2823489
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The Beethoven is am extremely advanced piece requiring conservatory level technique. The Chopin is not at all easy and almost never played for a good reason. IMO it is a very minor work by a great composer. Of course, if you like it that's a good reason to study it but I think you should consider one of the more commonly played works by Chopin. Whatever you choose, I think it makes sense to get in a larger collection of all the Polonaises, half the Beethoven Sonatas, etc.

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Ok thanks. I wanted to have the music in any case as its good to just play for fun.

My teacher did however recommend Brhams 118 no 6, which looked crazy difficult, so perhaps tempest will be possible. My main issue was the length of the pieces.

I am tempted to learn faure. It was a grade 8 piece so something I could play very well and it changes a lot so I wouldnt get bored.



The other piece recommended was Claude Debussy by Bruyères but I found the same style as the intermezzo so wanted to do another piece in between. I think a choice of 2 is ok and see what is recommended. And I'll go buy the Henle versions as recommended. Ta

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Originally Posted by Moo :)
My teacher did however recommend Brhams 118 no 6, which looked crazy difficult, so perhaps tempest will be possible.

RCM has Brahms 118/6 on its Level 10 List C, which is not even diploma level yet. On the other hand, Tempest is indeed RCM diploma level - ARCT List B. Not saying that RCM is correct in grading these two - I have no idea - but just pointing out the obvious that their professionals think Beethoven Tempest is harder than Brahms 118/6 for reasons I couldn't begin to guess. I've linked the RCM Syllabus so you can take a look yourself.


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About the Poulenc Three Novelettes that you posted the YT video of. I have played #1 and #3 and these are challenging pieces, more difficult than appears by listening to them and following the score. Moo, I think you tend to gravitate towards pieces that may be technically frustrating for you. Choosing pieces that you can master will build confidence. Is your teacher not helpful in that regard?

There is no Faure Noveletten. Did you mean Poulenc?



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It is true that good scores tend to be expensive. But usually it's worth to pay extra to get something decent. My first pick is usually Wiener-Urtext. If not available then Henle. There are couple of other good quality publishers (liked Könemann but that's discontinued I think, Jurgenson is often good). But unfortunately much of what is published is trash: Bad quality printing, bad quality paper and bad binding frown
I hate most Schirmer, Peters and Boosey & Hawks and even most Bärenreiter. The print is either too weak or too wide spaced (B&H), too messy or packed (Peters, Bärenreiter) or too small and (Schirmer). Sikorski is sometimes the only option and most of them suck too. And most books refuse to stay flat frown
Dover is usually cheap so sometimes worth it especially since they publish some rare gems.
French scores tend to be bad quality especially these days when some just digitally reprint things that look like a bad scan of the originals.

All the Henle and Wiener Urtext editions I have are multilingual: The texts are in English and German/French. And the music itself of course with whatever the composer used.

With imslp and internet it is usually easy to research if there are musical differences between editions so those are not something I would worry much if the score is practical in use. Personally I don't care about fingerings, the less the better since I will write my own anyway.

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I have many many Henle's and ALL are in three languages including English.

Moo, let us know whose advice you actually accepted this time.

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Originally Posted by Lakeviewsteve
I have many many Henle's and ALL are in three languages including English.

All of yours perhaps but not ALL Henle's. I bet you all of your Henles wink that the Henle entitled "Beethoven Bagatelle a-moll WoO 59 (Für Elise), HN 1347" from 2016 has a commentary section in only two languages, and not three. I have it in my hands right now and there is no commentary in French. Ipso facto, Henles are not universally in three languages even if all of yours happen to be.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by Lakeviewsteve
I have many many Henle's and ALL are in three languages including English.

All of yours perhaps but not ALL Henle's. I bet you all of your Henles wink that the Henle entitled "Beethoven Bagatelle a-moll WoO 59 (Für Elise), HN 1347" from 2016 has a commentary section in only two languages, and not three. I have it in my hands right now and there is no commentary in French. Ipso facto, Henles are not universally in three languages even if all of yours happen to be.


I have the individual Henle edition of "Klavierstück, Für Elise, Kinsky-Halm WoO59, catalog number HN128 (obviously an earlier printing than the one Tyrone has); the commentary is in German, English and French.

The cover, Beethoven: "Klavierstück, für Elise: a-moll [German], A minor [English] and la mineur [French]."

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