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Re: This place is really dead [Re: DFSRN] #2821658
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Re: This place is really dead [Re: DFSRN] #2821670
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Originally Posted by DFSRN
ShyPianist, companies spend millions on customer surveys and marketing. I am not a piano teacher, however I have an education background in nursing and have taught. Input from customers is important for any organization or businesses that seek to thrive.

Absolutely. About clicking on my name and posts:

It's so slow. It means to track what I have written, I have to go to my last posts, one by one, but there is no guarantee there will be a single reply to me. Then, after day or more goes by, if someone replies later, it's lost.

In another forum I spend a lot of time on I will instantly get an alert if someone replies to something I've written, or even likes it.

And that forum does not stop me from editing, if I find a mistake, or if there is a problem.

Less than an hour ago I accidentally posted the wrong link, and that could have been a huge problem for me if I had not been able to edit it. But I was lucky I found it in time, because there is an almost zero window now on this site before anything we write is frozen. And I'm not the only one who hates that.

Back to feedback: I need it and like it. It tells me what is good, what is OK, and what needs to be changed. To me ignoring such feedback is incredibly arrogant.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2821673
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Gary, let me tell you what keeps me motivated. My teacher is a paid performer at a nursing home once a month, it is an hour concert for the residents. My dad used to be there and now my father-in-law is there. He invites me to play a song and we have performed duets. Yes, I mess up, not every time, because I get nervous, he is very positive. This past week he played his keyboard and I used the nursing home piano (4 hands two pianos). The C below middle C was sticking and I could not recover, it was not too good. He said, we will play again next month the same piece you can use my keyboard and I will take the piano.

The residents love the concerts, even if my song is bad. I feel like I have a recital every month, sometimes we do the same piece until I get another one that I can play well. When a person gets out of their comfort zone, they really start to grow.

I feel like my teacher is vested in my learning and not there for a paycheck. I am challenged which keeps me motivated.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2821703
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Apparantly, I'm rather a boor; it never occurred to me to worry about whether I was welcome here or not.

Sometimes I post; sometimes I don't. Sometimes I stick to my guns and try to clarify what I meant when people have clearly misunderstood; sometimes I don't persist. Sometimes it seems pretty clear that every other user has marked me with "IGNORE," but I hardly feel bad, because people ignore each other all the time, even when quoting each other's posts.

I guess I keep coming around because there are some interesting posts and some interesting posters.

As for mixolydian mode, I love that people know and discuss this. Personally, even knowing that there is a mixolydian mode is probably more information about mixolydian mode than I will ever need. At least this has been the case since I learned enough about modes to get an A in a music theory class. Nevertheless, Mixolydia would be a perfect name for a female bartender with a lot of tattoos.

I like the Teachers' Forum because I am interested teaching and learning in general and in specific areas, I can be rather passionate about it.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2821710
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Re: This place is really dead [Re: AZNpiano] #2821717
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Originally Posted by AZNpiano
I do what I can to keep this place interesting. I contribute.

But I can't give away all the trade secrets.


I love your posts. I've a picture of you in my head of a combination drunk Bob Uecker in Major League and Mr. Hand from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Why I personally don't contribute is I'm barely a month old in this hobby and don't know much of anything yet (only just learning and starting to practice legato!). I find the discussions on issues teachers have very interesting, though, and somewhat helps inform me of my own situation.

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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2821729
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Originally Posted by malkin
Apparantly, I'm rather a boor; it never occurred to me to worry about whether I was welcome here or not.

Sometimes I post; sometimes I don't. Sometimes I stick to my guns and try to clarify what I meant when people have clearly misunderstood; sometimes I don't persist. Sometimes it seems pretty clear that every other user has marked me with "IGNORE," but I hardly feel bad, because people ignore each other all the time, even when quoting each other's posts.
malkin, that's the exact attitude needed for spending any kind of active, fuss-free time on the internet. Skin as tough as a rhino's thumb


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2821733
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Gary,
I did check your Mixolydian post, and the videos you linked were great! I'd admit I went to that post via this one. But don't blame me; the title of this post is a little too hard to resist!

You really shouldn't think that just because people don't thank/respond personally, they didn't like/appreciate what you wrote. Because, being a total noob, sometimes I feel I'm just posting one 'Thank You' after the other. Which makes me wonder, if I'm spamming the thread. There may be others like me too. Not saying just for the sake of it.. but I've read many of your previous posts, and I love your attitude towards teaching.

If only there was an Upvote button, that would be the most used feature for me in this forum. I learn a lot everyday from posts like yours and several others'. Thanks!

Oh, and I feel this particular post had an added benefit, because Piano*Dad introduced to me two very awesome smileys. [Linked Image] Thank you, Piano*Dad!

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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2821747
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These days I often read the forum with my phone when I have spare time...posting and especially quoting long posts with the phone is a nightmare though...so I often write shortly, which may lead into misunderstandings. Also there's the time difference: When I get back, the debate has
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I am not a teacher but I do think there are other levels of valuable knowledge besides one's everyday experience and I do have some of that as someone with a research background and connections to educational field. As an adult student with special needs I also feel I can give some insides to teachers about possible reasons why their students may struggle with common methods even when they do practice and try their best to follow instructions. Because some students do not even know they are not "normal" and cannot voice their issues to the teacher. But often I do not post anymore because I realize now that the teachers may come here more to vent than actually looking for solutions...

Re: This place is really dead [Re: malkin] #2821753
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A quiick thought on this one:
Originally Posted by malkin
As for mixolydian mode, I love that people know and discuss this. Personally, even knowing that there is a mixolydian mode is probably more information about mixolydian mode than I will ever need. At least this has been the case since I learned enough about modes to get an A in a music theory class.


I got a grade of 99.95% in the theory exam where modes were part of the offing, But I have discovered since that there is an awful lot I never learned about how music really works. I'd not be surprised if you got the same kind of dry and impractical fare about modes that I did. The theory we learn tends to go toward a simplified version of Common Practice era music and there is so much more. The thread makes me want to learn even more.

Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2821775
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Tell you one thing that would make me contribute more. Being able to write a post more frequently than every five minutes!


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: ShyPianist] #2821782
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Originally Posted by ShyPianist
Tell you one thing that would make me contribute more. Being able to write a post more frequently than every five minutes!

I believe after you have made a few posts (maybe many?), the limitation goes away. At least I used to be limited, but now no longer.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: malkin] #2821880
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Originally Posted by malkin
Apparantly, I'm rather a boor; it never occurred to me to worry about whether I was welcome here or not.

Sometimes I post; sometimes I don't. Sometimes I stick to my guns and try to clarify what I meant when people have clearly misunderstood; sometimes I don't persist. Sometimes it seems pretty clear that every other user has marked me with "IGNORE," but I hardly feel bad, because people ignore each other all the time, even when quoting each other's posts.

I guess I keep coming around because there are some interesting posts and some interesting posters.

I like the Teachers' Forum because I am interested teaching and learning in general and in specific areas, I can be rather passionate about it.


Well said. I don't have the time to prove my statements (which may mean, going through a ton of books when I barely have a minute to visit this forum as it is). Nor do I feel like I have to. Some teachers expect that, I don't have to provide, nor does anyone really want to read, every single detail about an issue I may have, and I don't feel I have to give a lengthy explanation as to why I prefer one thing over another. I enjoy scanning through threads, I sometimes use the archaic, usually unsuccessful search engine on this site and usually appreciate most feedback.

To expect a thank you to every person who has provided helpful feedback is unrealistic, IMO.

Actually, I believe I sent a thank you thread out over the Christmas Holidays to all on PW.


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And I also wish that I received notifications when replies to my threads are posted.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: ShyPianist] #2821895
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Originally Posted by ShyPianist
Tell you one thing that would make me contribute more. Being able to write a post more frequently than every five minutes!

I don't know about that limitation. Maybe I don't post more often than that, or maybe this goes away with X number of posts. But the limitation for editing I think it outrageous.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: chasingrainbows] #2821912
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And I also wish that I received notifications when replies to my threads are posted.

In the upper right of the webpage, click the dropdown next to your forum handle "chasingrainbows" and select the "* Preferences" option. Go to the last section of the resulting window which looks like this:

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Check the 'yes' next to the 3rd option which reads "Should anything be added..." and then click on the "Save Changes" button at the bottom.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2821917
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Originally Posted by Gary D.
Originally Posted by ShyPianist
Tell you one thing that would make me contribute more. Being able to write a post more frequently than every five minutes!

I don't know about that limitation. Maybe I don't post more often than that, or maybe this goes away with X number of posts. But the limitation for editing I think it outrageous.


I agree with both of those points.

Years ago, I (briefly) joined a forum where EVERY post was reviewed by a mod before it showed up. You want to see dead, try that!


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: malkin] #2821921
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Originally Posted by malkin
Originally Posted by Gary D.
Originally Posted by ShyPianist
Tell you one thing that would make me contribute more. Being able to write a post more frequently than every five minutes!

I don't know about that limitation. Maybe I don't post more often than that, or maybe this goes away with X number of posts. But the limitation for editing I think it outrageous.


I agree with both of those points.

Years ago, I (briefly) joined a forum where EVERY post was reviewed by a mod before it showed up. You want to see dead, try that!


I think, as Tyrone suggested, that ShyPianist's limitations will go away after she has posted a number of times. There is something similar in another forum where I moderate, and the site owner there explained the situation to me. It seems that spambots invade forums, spawning large numbers of posts in a short time (the screenshot I saw had maybe 50), so sites employ some kind of program that limits posts by new posters to start with, and then lift that limit. Tyrone said that after he posted for a while, the limit was lifted so it may be this kind of thing.

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Lots of suggestions for new features. Hmmm..

https://pianoworld.com/help-support-piano-world/


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Originally Posted by Gary D.
But the limitation for editing I think it outrageous.

I believe this time limit (of five minutes?) only came about last year - possibly at the request of some PW members (?) - whose posts were rendered meaningless when posts they replied to were subsequently deleted or so heavily edited (often hours or even days later) that the original post was completely changed......presumably to make that poster seem more knowledgeable - or less silly crazy.

There were entire threads where posters seem to be saying things that made no sense, simply because the post(s) they replied or referred to had been deleted or completely changed by the person who posted it - after he/she had read the responses. There was one culprit in particular (who shall remain nameless, unless someone wants to PM me wink ) who had a very annoying habit of deleting his/her threads frequently, after people had already responded to them.

There has always been an easy (but not foolproof) way of negating around this problem - by quoting the post one is responding to - but many people don't, probably because it's more complicated to do this on a mobile device (?). But if the post one is quoting has been deleted before you have a chance to post your reply, you are blocked from posting it, because that post has disappeared. That's happened to me a few times, and it's intensely annoying when you've taken time to compose and edit your considered reply to someone, only to find that you cannot post it.


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