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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2822259
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No, still limited! 😡


“If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt) - stolen from Kreisler
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Re: This place is really dead [Re: ShyPianist] #2822267
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Originally Posted by ShyPianist
No, still limited! 😡

Who should be contacted about this, for help?

Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2822269
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I was just looking in the Forum Help section and there’s no mention of this at all! I was thinking about posting in New Feature Requests, but that seems pretty dead so I’m unsure if it would be picked up.


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Well I’ve sent an email and tweaked a couple of settings in my profile (not that I’m expecting that to make a difference!). Will test just now...


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: pianist_lady] #2822297
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Originally Posted by pianist_lady
What stops me from commenting here or asking questions more often is that there are so many non-teachers chiming in with opinions that many threads become uninformative.


When I read this I thought of threads such as this one:
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2808064/piano-scale-manuals.html#Post2808064

The asker must be a teacher, since he refers to his pupils. It took ten days for him to get a single response, and that response was not from a fellow teacher/colleague, but from a pianist.

When I see a question, I try to wait 24 hours at least, for teachers to respond. Of course sometimes a non-teacher jumps in early, but often nobody at all responds. There is that side of it.

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It's the internet so people are free to say what they want, but taking lessons is a completely different experience than being a teacher.

This is absolutely true. Especially when the issues are teaching issues, or you're exploring how to teach something, that should be teacher to teacher.

We also get teacher-student things, especially students checking up on things because they don't know where to turn. There is no separate forum for that. In that case I do see the following: A teacher will know how he or she teaches, and has a lot of experience with their own students. But the same teacher may not have any experience with students having other poor quality teachers, or some of the issues common to adult students. When the advice is "follow your teacher's instructions and all will be well" this advice will be wrong if the teaching is poor. "Outside" input may be on point.

Re: This place is really dead [Re: keystring] #2822328
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Originally Posted by keystring
[quote=pianist_lady]What stops me from commenting here or asking questions more often is that there are so many non-teachers chiming in with opinions that many threads become uninformative.


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It's the internet so people are free to say what they want, but taking lessons is a completely different experience than being a teacher.


Yes - it's the internet where anyone is free to give their informed or uninformed opinions and advice. You have to sift through everything and judge whether any of it is correct/useful. Every site on every subject has the same set of problems. Unless you somehow vet people that isn't going to change. Look at the problems that the social media companies are now faced with re, abuse, bullying, etc.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: ShyPianist] #2822329
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Originally Posted by ShyPianist
Yeah, fair enough. It’s probably no bad thing. It means I only persevere when I genuinely want to make a point. Maybe I should see if there’s an app to impose that limitation on me elsewhere. 😆

Your acronym would seem to be something of a misnomer!


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2822335
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When it comes to playing I hate playing for anyone at all, and certainly wouldn’t play in public, after a childhood full of forced performances and competitions. That is what the name refers to, not that I should have to explain myself to you or anyone. Sorry if I say too much. 🙄

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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Colin Miles] #2822337
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Originally Posted by Colin Miles
[quote=keystring]...

Somehow you managed to quote the part that I quoted, without ever responding to the things I wrote, which you also didn't quote. (?)

Re: This place is really dead [Re: keystring] #2822387
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Originally Posted by keystring


When I read this I thought of threads such as this one:
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2808064/piano-scale-manuals.html#Post2808064

The asker must be a teacher, since he refers to his pupils. It took ten days for him to get a single response, and that response was not from a fellow teacher/colleague, but from a pianist.

My view: one post. When people only post one time, most of the time they just want something and will contribute zero. When you read that such people are teachers, you just scratch your head.

That's why I no longer answer.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: ShyPianist] #2822388
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Originally Posted by ShyPianist
When it comes to playing I hate playing for anyone at all, and certainly wouldn’t play in public, after a childhood full of forced performances and competitions. That is what the name refers to, not that I should have to explain myself to you or anyone. Sorry if I say too much. 🙄

In a nutshell you just illustrated everything that is wrong here. Somehow my name is linked at the top of your post, but there is no text, no quote.

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You seem to be irritated, but I have no idea about what.

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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2822390
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Originally Posted by Gary D.
Originally Posted by ShyPianist
When it comes to playing I hate playing for anyone at all, and certainly wouldn’t play in public, after a childhood full of forced performances and competitions. That is what the name refers to, not that I should have to explain myself to you or anyone. Sorry if I say too much. 🙄

In a nutshell you just illustrated everything that is wrong here. Somehow my name is linked at the top of your post, but there is no text, no quote. You seem to be irritated at me, but I have no idea about what. Did I say anything to you to insult you?


I think that confusion happens because there is no differentiation between "Reply to Thread" and "Reply to Post" so the only way to respond to a post is to quote, and quotes take a lot of space and get screwed up all the time anyway.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Tech-key] #2822393
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I also went to that post after reading about Mixolydian. My teacher has a masters in music is a jazz pianist and drummer, so I have been learning about Mixolydian and Dorian, the most common ones that are used. If there was a a category of music theory I probably would have found that post, because that is an interest of mine. I had taken theory for two and a half years, then I felt I knew enough as this is a hobby. However, I am always interested in learning. Like you I do not respond to every post, it would be nice if there was a thumbs up button.


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Mordiene, since I work for the government, I coordinate facility academic programs. I am on national calls and freely share my work and program information I never thought about the competitiveness of private music schools. I asked the director of music school why she took down faculty information. I was surprised she said other schools try to take my staff. She also no longer posts pricing, to keep her information private. I can see where this forum may be beneficial for music teachers.


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2822412
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In a nutshell you just illustrated everything that is wrong here. Somehow my name is linked at the top of your post, but there is no text, no quote.


Yes, sorry Gary, it wasn’t aimed at you at all but at Colin who made what I guess he thought was an amusingly ironic observation about my user name. It’s a hard forum to use on a phone!


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: currawong] #2822413
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Originally Posted by ebonykawai
Is there an "ignore" option on these forums? I'm not seeing one? That could be beneficial, lol.
There certainly is! Go to the user list up the top of the page, find the name, press the ignore button. Too easy. I've done it in the past for posters who really annoy me. But it doesn't make the ignoree's post actually disappear. It just goes blank, and the temptation to find out what they said sometimes makes you toggle back and forth between ignore/don't ignore. Or is that just me...


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: cmb13] #2822415
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Originally Posted by currawong


Ebony, don't ignore me!!! lol I haven't ignored anyone, although there are some who I just cognitively ignore, but I still sometimes like to read what they've written.


No worries, it's an interesting feature but I doubt I'll use it, I'm too tech lazy, lol. 😉


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Originally Posted by ebonykawai
Originally Posted by currawong
Ebony, don't ignore me!!! lol I haven't ignored anyone, although there are some who I just cognitively ignore, but I still sometimes like to read what they've written.
No worries, it's an interesting feature but I doubt I'll use it, I'm too tech lazy, lol. 😉
Ah, the quote function! I don’t know who said that, but it wasn’t me. But I *could* easily have said it, so no big deal. smile


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Re: This place is really dead [Re: Gary D.] #2822445
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Originally Posted by Gary D.
Originally Posted by keystring


When I read this I thought of threads such as this one:
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2808064/piano-scale-manuals.html#Post2808064

The asker must be a teacher, since he refers to his pupils. It took ten days for him to get a single response, and that response was not from a fellow teacher/colleague, but from a pianist.

My view: one post. When people only post one time, most of the time they just want something and will contribute zero. When you read that such people are teachers, you just scratch your head.

That's why I no longer answer.


Agree. It's not encouraging when the OP doesn't even reply to say thanks for the info.

Something that others have touched on here is that it's difficult for independent teachers to find a community where ideas are exchanged and feedback is honest. I think this is an important issue. It is difficult to find professional development that is not focussed on selling a particular method or exam system. An online forum should be a good thing.

I also didn't mean to insult anyone when I posted about finding the replies of non-teachers being less informative. It's just a statement; I would be the first to admit that many of the views I held before I started teaching seriously were uninformed or even wrong, despite many years of piano study. It's difficult to think outside of your own experience as a students, even for the most reflective among us. When you teach 25-30 unique learners week after week, you pick up on certain things.


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Originally Posted by currawong
Ebony, don't ignore me!!! lol I haven't ignored anyone, although there are some who I just cognitively ignore, but I still sometimes like to read what they've written.
No worries, it's an interesting feature but I doubt I'll use it, I'm too tech lazy, lol. 😉
Ah, the quote function! I don’t know who said that, but it wasn’t me. But I *could* easily have said it, so no big deal. smile


It's an imperfect world, lol.


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