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My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. #2820130
02/26/19 12:01 AM
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Yesterday .I goto meet my teacher .In fact I can’t finish my homework this time .there are l lot of problem in my play . My teacher told me the most important of them is the metronome of left hand .it is not stable. Some time quick some time slow.
My rhythm is always confusion. Because I am a hurry man?


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Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820155
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Two questions:

. . . Did your teacher suggest how you could improve the left-hand rhythm ?

. . . Have you ever practiced with a metronome ?


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Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820160
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My teacher just repeat she said. Exercise with slow speed.
Of course, Metronome is useful. But I think I am not sensitive about rhythm

Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820392
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Learn how to count out loud while you are playing. It is a skill that takes time to develop. I believe it is the most important skill to learn as a beginner (OK, maybe I exaggerate a little). Go slow at first. Count out loud everything you play until one day it is in your sub-conscious.It takes months. Good Luck!


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Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820396
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Originally Posted by redcap
My teacher just repeat she said. Exercise with slow speed.
Of course, Metronome is useful. But I think I am not sensitive about rhythm


Well, now you know what you need to work on …. playing ON TIME.

If you do not play on time you can throw the rest away …. it won't sound good.

So, make up your mind you are going to do your best to do as you teacher suggests and work at it.

Next lesson …. work on it during lesson …. nothing else.

Keep working on it until you get better.

It will not be easy.

Do not give up.


Good Luck


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Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820425
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It sounds like you need to play:


Left : 1 - 2 - 3 -
Right: - 1 2 3 4 5


But your right hand is too early. Try repeating the first note in the right like this:


Left : 1 - 2 - 3 -
Right: 1 1 2 3 4 5


Make sure every two notes in the right coincide exactly with the left. After that go back to practicing normally.


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Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: Progman] #2820505
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Originally Posted by Progman
Learn how to count out loud while you are playing. It is a skill that takes time to develop. I believe it is the most important skill to learn as a beginner (OK, maybe I exaggerate a little). Go slow at first. Count out loud everything you play until one day it is in your sub-conscious.It takes months. Good Luck!


thank you . I will try it .

Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820539
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Originally Posted by redcap
Originally Posted by Progman
Learn how to count out loud while you are playing. It is a skill that takes time to develop. I believe it is the most important skill to learn as a beginner (OK, maybe I exaggerate a little). Go slow at first. Count out loud everything you play until one day it is in your sub-conscious.It takes months. Good Luck!


thank you . I will try it .


I would not do that unless you have been doing it at your lesson under the supervision of your instructor.

You might be counting wrong, also.... and then practicing that wrong.

I strongly suggest you let your teacher help you deal with this issue and not search for help here.

Good Luck



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Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820545
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yes. it is my problem. if I want to exactly I must exercise with slow speed.
thank you

Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820645
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Use a metronome. Set it extremely slowly at first then gradually notch it up.

Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820935
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. . . But I think I am not sensitive about rhythm


To improve your sense of rhythm, play with other people. Two ways to do this:

a) Join a choir, and sing. You will not develop finger skills, but you _will_ learn to listen, and to sing _in rhythm_ with everyone else.

b) If you can find a "drum circle" -- an informal group of hand-drummers (djembe, etc) -- join that. Once again, you'll be playing with other people, and you'll learn to fit your playing into the group's rhythm.

A metronome may also help. As your teacher says, start slowly, and speed-up gradually.


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Re: My left hand always quickly than exactly tempo. [Re: redcap] #2820936
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i just listened to your YouTube piece.

Once you get started -- in the middle and end of the piece -- your rhythm is pretty steady.

At the beginning, there's a "glitch" as you start the piece, and one more "glitch" when you make a mistake in the right hand, and (I think) re-start the measure.

A suggestion (FWIW):

. . . Start playing with _just the left hand_ for a few measures (just repeat the first bar, several times), and _then_ add the right hand.

That might help you to get the "pulse" -- the strong first beat of every measure -- stable. That "pulse" is what the right hand must synchronize to:

. . . But remember that the right hand _does not play_ on that beat!

That might be what is causing you trouble.


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