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Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 #2819363
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Hi, I’m about to purchase a brand new Yamaha piano, but I’m very hesitant to choose between U1 and U3, U3 is about $1300 higher than U1. I heard U3 has longer string and should sound better and brighter, but I also see people complain about the bad responsive issues. Which one should I choose? I appreciate any suggestions and experience!
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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: anana123] #2819370
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Try them both and buy the one you prefer.


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I know nothing about piano, just get it for my child who just started

Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: anana123] #2819380
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According to Piano Buyer, there is a $2699 difference in Suggested Maximum Price between the U1 @$11,399 and the U3 @$14,098; a $1300 selling price difference would seem reasonable. That is of course based on having a reasonable price on both pianos.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: anana123] #2819384
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Originally Posted by anana123
Hi, I’m about to purchase a brand new Yamaha piano, but I’m very hesitant to choose between U1 and U3, U3 is about $1300 higher than U1. I heard U3 has longer string and should sound better and brighter, but I also see people complain about the bad responsive issues. Which one should I choose? I appreciate any suggestions and experience!
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I've never encountered any complaints about the U3's lack of responsiveness. (Can you be more specific?) There is a great deal of information on the internet regarding the differences between the U1 and U3. Both are excellent pianos - but the U3 clearly has an edge in terms of size and tone. With uprights, bigger is usually better. If you can swing the extra $1,300 the U3 would definitely be the way to go.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: anana123] #2819385
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Those are both very, very good upright pianos. I doubt that a beginner will feel or hear any noticeable differences for a long time. I would go with the less expensive U1, if those are your only two choices, and if buying new is your preference. Many advanced piano players are very happy with the U1.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: anana123] #2819386
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Without the ability to evaluate for yourself, the U1 is probably the better choice. It is cheaper, so if you ever want to upgrade, or if you decide that you no longer want the piano, it will probably be easier to sell.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: BDB] #2819396
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Originally Posted by BDB
Without the ability to evaluate for yourself, the U1 is probably the better choice. It is cheaper, so if you ever want to upgrade, or if you decide that you no longer want the piano, it will probably be easier to sell.

A child who is just starting to play would be extremely fortunate to have either piano. But I agree, there is less risk involved with the U1.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: anana123] #2819613
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If the child isn’t serious with piano then it would make no difference. If the child is very serious it would still take many years for the child to appreciate the difference between the U1 and U3. By then a really serious piano student should really move to a grand piano. A not so serious student won’t care whether the practice piano is U1 or U3. The U3 is a piano a musician buys for himself because he hasn’t the room or budget for similar length grand piano. It’s not a student piano, but sales people are never shy to recommend an overkill to make more money.

Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: 8 Octaves] #2819625
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Originally Posted by 8 Octaves
If the child is very serious it would still take many years for the child to appreciate the difference between the U1 and U3. By then a really serious piano student should really move to a grand piano. A not so serious student won’t care whether the practice piano is U1 or U3. The U3 is a piano a musician buys for himself because he hasn’t the room or budget for similar length grand piano. It’s not a student piano, but sales people are never shy to recommend an overkill to make more money.


I tend to agree with this.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: anana123] #2819653
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I'll preface this but noting that I do not have direct experience with the line....that said, the U3 has an excellent reputation, and at only $1300 more, is probably worth the upgrade. I think it will command a higher price at resale, if you ever sell it, and provide better tone and musicality for your family if your child stays with it long enough to produce beautiful music. If it were me, I'd make the jump, but I guess it depends on your budget and priorities.

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A cheaper piano is likely to sell faster than a more expensive piano. There are more buyers who can afford it. That may translate into a better return.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: BDB] #2819669
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Originally Posted by BDB
A cheaper piano is likely to sell faster than a more expensive piano. There are more buyers who can afford it. That may translate into a better return.


Unless the more expensive model is purchased for the same or similar price than the less expensive model. In this case, the differential is relatively low, and I suspect the resale market may be better for the upgraded model.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: cmb13] #2819680
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Originally Posted by cmb13

Unless the more expensive model is purchased for the same or similar price than the less expensive model. In this case, the differential is relatively low, and I suspect the resale market may be better for the upgraded model.


Eh, I suspect the reverse is true, given the universal recognition and generations of demand for the U1 in the marketplace.
If you'll pardon an automotive parallel-- Which has better resale, a Toyota Camry or a Toyota Avalon?
The Avalon may be a nicer car, but so many people are looking for a used Camry that it's likely the easier car to sell quickly.


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Re: Brand new Yamaha U1 or U3 [Re: anana123] #2819850
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If it were me, I would take my child and whatever music s/he is playing and have them try both the U1 and U3. Even though you’re not playing both of you will be listening to your child practicing. Both are great uprights. If you and your child can hear and feel the difference and can afford $1300 extra go for the U3. If you and your child can’t really hear any difference, buy the U1 and spend the extra on lessons. Going back to the car analogy, if you drive a long commute, you might really enjoy the Avalon more even if it doesn’t bring any extra cash when you sell it.


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If it were me, I would be looking at a used piano if my child were just starting out. The depreciation on a new piano is huge the minute it leaves the store. I would look at used studio pianos by Yamaha, Kawai, or Baldwin. There are other very reputable makes of Studio pianos as well. Then I would consider upgrading the piano later in a few years if your child advances and really demonstrates ability and interest. If your child looses interest and you have to sell the piano later, your financial loss will be minimal.

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Originally Posted by GC13
If it were me, I would be looking at a used piano if my child were just starting out. The depreciation on a new piano is huge the minute it leaves the store. I would look at used studio pianos by Yamaha, Kawai, or Baldwin. There are other very reputable makes of Studio pianos as well. Then I would consider upgrading the piano later in a few years if your child advances and really demonstrates ability and interest. If your child looses interest and you have to sell the piano later, your financial loss will be minimal.


I 2nd this advice. A good used piano makes a lot of sense.


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Originally Posted by GC13
If it were me, I would be looking at a used piano if my child were just starting out. The depreciation on a new piano is huge the minute it leaves the store. I would look at used studio pianos by Yamaha, Kawai, or Baldwin. There are other very reputable makes of Studio pianos as well. Then I would consider upgrading the piano later in a few years if your child advances and really demonstrates ability and interest. If your child looses interest and you have to sell the piano later, your financial loss will be minimal.

I 2nd this advice. A good used piano makes a lot of sense.
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Not sure your financial priorities or abilities... We have a couple of piano players with some years of experience in the house. We had a $2000 used spinet (not worth it). Upgraded to a 1976 U1 ($4000) - pretty nice. Given a choice, I don't think I'd go below the $4k level (unless digital). It does have some tonal characteristics that might be of note later (well known tendency to brightness). Might not be ideal for advanced classical repertoire but pretty nice for shimmery anime music smile Agree with all the above. For a beginner a used U1 is fine. New might be more fun if money really isn't an issue... While shopping I did note a number of non-free instruments of poor quality that would have driven me crazy later. You might consider borrowing a more experienced friend to look with you if you look seriously into the used market, given the huge variability between individual instruments. Others will recommend having your favorite checked by a technician prior to purchase.


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