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I sure would like to see the manuals for these. C'mon, Casio!


The availability of manuals probably has a connection to the proximity of actual retail sales. So I guess we better not hold our breath just yet! sleep

Yah, I'm sure you're right. However, if they'd post the manuals, it might tempt me into pre-ordering one! laugh


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Originally Posted by sullivang
I'll invoke Dr Popper's prophecy:
"No-one will notice, and even if they do notice, they won't care". 🤣


Nice!
That's a name I haven't heard in a while...

I doubt all the young'uns on this forum will appreciate that reference.

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i wonder if anyone has had the opportunity to play both the PX-S1000 and Yamaha p125- considering trading in the Krome and then getting the S1000 and using that as my controller for my PC


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Pre ordered a PX-S3000 from Adam at Kraft. Expected mid to late March.


Ooh! Exciting! Can't wait to start reading about what you and others actually think of it once they play it. On paper, I still can't decide whether the 3000 is worth the extra 250 €… I guess so, if only for the display? It might get annoying not to have one. I wonder also whether it's one of those tech expenses that brings on new ones: will I want an iPad I don't really need just to play on that app of theirs if I get this DP? Hmmm…

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I'll invoke Dr Popper's prophecy:
"No-one will notice, and even if they do notice, they won't care". 🤣


Nice!
That's a name I haven't heard in a while...

I doubt all the young'uns on this forum will appreciate that reference.

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I tried Googling that and found disgusting videos of people bursting growths on their faces — must be a mistake.

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That's hilarious! Dr Popper is simply the alias of a Pianoworld member. 😃 So just search for posts by that user.

P.S I've been informed by the distributor that these PX-S's will land here in Australia late April.

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Originally Posted by PossumES8Krome61
i wonder if anyone has had the opportunity to play both the PX-S1000 and Yamaha p125- considering trading in the Krome and then getting the S1000 and using that as my controller for my PC

If the S1000 is only going to be used as a controller for the PC, I'm not sure I see any advantage to choosing that over the CDP-S100.

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Originally Posted by anotherscott
Originally Posted by PossumES8Krome61
i wonder if anyone has had the opportunity to play both the PX-S1000 and Yamaha p125- considering trading in the Krome and then getting the S1000 and using that as my controller for my PC

If the S1000 is only going to be used as a controller for the PC, I'm not sure I see any advantage to choosing that over the CDP-S100.

In that case, I think the main difference would be the actions.


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If the S1000 is only going to be used as a controller for the PC, I'm not sure I see any advantage to choosing that over the CDP-S100.

In that case, I think the main difference would be the actions.

That's the point. Unless I'm mistaken, the actions are the same, i.e. the new PX-S and the new CDP-S models all use the same new action.

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If the S1000 is only going to be used as a controller for the PC, I'm not sure I see any advantage to choosing that over the CDP-S100.

In that case, I think the main difference would be the actions.

That's the point. Unless I'm mistaken, the actions are the same, i.e. the new PX-S and the new CDP-S models all use the same new action.

Oh, I thought they had different actions: the CDP an improved version of the basic graded hammer action in the 130/5 models, and the PX-S an improved version of the Privia action. I could be wrong about that.


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Looking at the relevant websites, I'm seeing the CDP-S models described as having the "Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard â…¡." That sounds like an upgraded version of the scaled hammer action of the older CDP models.

The PX-S models describe theirs as the "Smart Scaled Hammer Action Keyboard with simulated ebony/ivory key textures." That to me sounds like the next generation of the older Privia Tri-Sensor Hammer Action II (though whether they are still triple sensor seems unclear).

So I think they are different actions.


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Ah, the textured tops would be one difference. Interesting about the "smart" descriptor. They may be talking about where they say "the note off timing is digitally controlled based on the movement of the keys during release." That may be unique to the PX even if the action is physically the same. Hopefully that applies to driving external sounds via MIDI and not just something processed by its own internal sound engine. It sounds like it would be.

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Let me try to make this all clear once and for all.

Both the PX-S and CDP-S keybeds feature a NEW scaled, weighted hammer action and keys with simulated ebony and ivory surfaces. The PX-S keybed also includes a patent-pending "smart scaling" feature that simulates the hammer and key behavior of each of the 88 keys individually.

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Thanks Mike. Do they both have a tri-sensor action?

Anotherscott mentioned note-off timing, which reminded me about release *velocity* - I completely forgot that this a feature I would like. Will the new range send release velocity?

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In addition to the above some other differences.

BOTH are two sensor actions. While I don't expect you to take my word for it, these new instruments especially the PX-S series perform better in almost every respect than the tri-sensor action found in previous models. Trust me we had people meticulously comparing them throughout the NAMM show.

The PX-S series action has some additional features not included on the CDP-S. This includes High Resolution MIDI Velocity and Release velocity.

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Thanks for the info, Mike. Very helpful!


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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin
Both the PX-S and CDP-S keybeds feature a NEW scaled, weighted hammer action and keys with simulated ebony and ivory surfaces. The PX-S keybed also includes a patent-pending "smart scaling" feature that simulates the hammer and key behavior of each of the 88 keys individually.

Cool. Does the smart scaling feature affect not only how the action triggers its internal sounds, but also how it triggers external sounds triggered over MIDI?

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BOTH are two sensor actions. While I don't expect you to take my word for it, these new instruments especially the PX-S series perform better in almost every respect than the tri-sensor action found in previous models. Trust me we had people meticulously comparing them throughout the NAMM show..
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Originally Posted by anotherscott
Originally Posted by PossumES8Krome61
i wonder if anyone has had the opportunity to play both the PX-S1000 and Yamaha p125- considering trading in the Krome and then getting the S1000 and using that as my controller for my PC

If the S1000 is only going to be used as a controller for the PC, I'm not sure I see any advantage to choosing that over the CDP-S100.

Hi Scott- thanks as always for your insight here and on the other musicplayer forums as well--I greatly appreciate it. I was thinking of using the S1000 as both a combo of playing out with and controlling my vst standalone sounds or those with mixcraft.

I'm using typically VB3, Addictive Keys and EZ Drummer when recording and find that I am not really using the Krome itself that much and could basically sell or exchange it for most of the cost of the new Casio.

I might look at the 3000 as well just to see what the extra sounds offerred are like.


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Originally Posted by PossumES8Krome61

I am not really using the Krome itself that much and could basically sell or exchange it for most of the cost of the new Casio.

But then, what would happen with your screen name? smirk


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Originally Posted by gerhard_k
Originally Posted by PossumES8Krome61

I am not really using the Krome itself that much and could basically sell or exchange it for most of the cost of the new Casio.

But then, what would happen with your screen name? smirk


LOL! All of the sudden I have decided to keep the Krome!!


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