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NY Times review of Denk, Fleisher, and Abduraimov recitals #2812000
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Re: NY Times review of Denk, Fleisher, and Abduraimov recitals [Re: pianoloverus] #2812055
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Great article! I find it amazing that Fleisher at the age of 90 still is performing. Considering the problems he has had with his right hand I think it's amazing that he's still able to perform!

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There was one glaring error in the review. Denk played Donald Lambert's very fast stride version of the Pilgrim's Chorus from Tanhauser as an encore and the reviewer said it was like boogie-woogie.

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
There was one glaring error in the review. Denk played Donald Lambert's very fast stride version of the Pilgrim's Chorus from Tanhauser as an encore and the reviewer said it was like boogie-woogie.

I’m just the new kid here: could you tel me the distinction between stride and boogie-woogie? Whatever it’s called, I’ve heard that Lambert encore by J. Denk a couple of times and it just slays me.


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Re: NY Times review of Denk, Fleisher, and Abduraimov recitals [Re: Qwerty53] #2815299
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Originally Posted by Qwerty53
I’m just the new kid here: could you tel me the distinction between stride and boogie-woogie? Whatever it’s called, I’ve heard that Lambert encore by J. Denk a couple of times and it just slays me.
I agree with this Wiki description:
The left hand characteristically plays a four-beat pulse with a single bass note, octave, or major tenth Interval on the first and third beats, and a chord on the second and fourth beats. Occasionally this pattern is reversed by placing the chord on the downbeat and bass note(s) on the upbeat. Unlike performers of the ragtime popularized by Scott Joplin and unlike much early jazz, stride players' left hands often leapt greater distances on the keyboard,[1] and they played in a wider range of tempos and with a greater emphasis on improvisation.

And here is a famous stride composition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXVih_I1mrk

The left hand for boogie woogie is hard to describe in words, but here is a video of some of the common patterns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tHeB7c55hY

And here is one of the most famous boogie woogie performances:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcvvUWhckww









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Thanks Pianoloverus! So stride is never boogie woogie, and boogie woogie is never stride? I’m trying to get what was wrong about the reviewer’s description of the Lambert encore — which is here, BTW, played by Lambert

And here played by the estimable Stephanie Trick


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Re: NY Times review of Denk, Fleisher, and Abduraimov recitals [Re: Qwerty53] #2815356
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Originally Posted by Qwerty53
So stride is never boogie woogie, and boogie woogie is never stride?
Yes, they are completely different unlike ragtime and stride which are related. Stride a kind of a very souped up ragtime as Dick Hyman so well explains here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo_365T1B2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tMTIhXkZM

There is another Hyman video where he says Ragtime is to stride as Mozart is to Beethoven.

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True Boogie-Woogie is always a Blues, and thus follows some variant of the 12 Bar (measure) I - IV - V pattern. (Although occasional novelty tunes are played, where the Boogie-Woogie bass is grafted onto a popular song.)

From Wikipedia:

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For the most part, boogie-woogie tunes are twelve-bar blues, although the style has been applied to popular songs such as "Swanee River" and hymns such as "Just a Closer Walk with Thee".


Here is a wonderful example of a 12 Bar Boogie-Woogie by one of the top modern players, Silvan Zingg:

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...d59d892fa12a1a6b0b8e17b&action=click


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Re: NY Times review of Denk, Fleisher, and Abduraimov recitals [Re: rocket88] #2815441
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OH MY! Thank you rocket88 for the link to Silvan Zingg and Dancin' the Boogie. Oh to be young again and dancing! Wow!

The explanations are really helpful! I've never had the language or the understanding to distinguish stride from boogie woogie (and I cannot -- yet? -- play either style); there's just something about both of them that really grabs me.


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Re: NY Times review of Denk, Fleisher, and Abduraimov recitals [Re: pianoloverus] #2815445
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Pianoloverus, thanks for these links to Dick Hyman's tour of stride history! I had heard his name before, but didn't know much about him. He'll be 92 on March 8! I wonder if he is still playing. Okay, now, I am off to watch those videos, perhaps in sloooooow motion.....


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