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Sojin upright - is it doomed? #2813893
02/12/19 03:12 AM
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Hi all

I wonder if I posted in the wrong forum with this question because I got no replies. 😢 Sorry if it’s bad form to post the same question again.

So I have just figured out this (Sojin, 33 years old) is what I have (the nameplate is “Eichner”). It was swapped by a piano shop back in the early 2000s in return for a Weber boudoir grand which I could no longer accommodate. The deal was done by my parents, I thought it might have been a bad deal at the time and now I’m sure it was!

After more than 20 years I really want to pick up my playing seriously again. Question, will this piano be a hindrance? I’ve already figured that it doesn’t hold its tune terribly well and the dampers seem uneven. The piano tuner has always been a bit non-committal about it as an instrument but as I wasn’t playing much I never pressed him too much.

Am I likely to need to budget for a new piano, basically?

I will add that after I originally posted this I had a good poke around the piano and I’ve been playing it a lot in the last few weeks and enjoying the tone more than I remembered. I’m starting to feel a bit guilty for saying bad things about it so I’d love for my fears to be misplaced!

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Re: Sojin upright - is it doomed? [Re: ShyPianist] #2813919
02/12/19 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyPianist
Hi all

I wonder if I posted in the wrong forum with this question because I got no replies. 😢 Sorry if it’s bad form to post the same question again.

So I have just figured out this (Sojin, 33 years old) is what I have (the nameplate is “Eichner”). It was swapped by a piano shop back in the early 2000s in return for a Weber boudoir grand which I could no longer accommodate. The deal was done by my parents, I thought it might have been a bad deal at the time and now I’m sure it was!

After more than 20 years I really want to pick up my playing seriously again. Question, will this piano be a hindrance? I’ve already figured that it doesn’t hold its tune terribly well and the dampers seem uneven. The piano tuner has always been a bit non-committal about it as an instrument but as I wasn’t playing much I never pressed him too much.

Am I likely to need to budget for a new piano, basically?

I will add that after I originally posted this I had a good poke around the piano and I’ve been playing it a lot in the last few weeks and enjoying the tone more than I remembered. I’m starting to feel a bit guilty for saying bad things about it so I’d love for my fears to be misplaced!

Playing seriously again. Doesn’t hold tune. Non committal feedback back from tuner.

I think you know the answer.

Ask your tuner, is (s)he also a tech who can provide you with a report on the condition of the piano and what is needed to bring it up to scratch. Or recommend such a tech. Compare the cost of that with the cost of a replacement and any emotional attachment you have to the Sojin. Even then you might not like Sojin!

New beginnings, new piano.


Last edited by spanishbuddha; 02/12/19 04:59 AM.
Re: Sojin upright - is it doomed? [Re: ShyPianist] #2813920
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I think you’re right I probably do know the answer in some ways, but I’m also wondering if I’m being too harsh on the poor thing. (It could always be simply a case of the bad workman blaming his tools! 😉) I’m having it tuned in a couple of weeks. The good news is that although individual notes sound well dodgy it’s still at concert pitch.

I simply can’t afford a new piano that’s the thing. I can’t justify such an expense for what now, sadly, can never be more than a serious hobby. My very first post on this forum (only this last weekend!) was to ask about digital pianos as I tried to figure out if that would be a viable alternative for me. I’m wondering if a digital with a decent action might actually be better for my technique. I guess I also need to go try some decent uprights so I can find out how bad or otherwise this one might be, since it’s been twenty years since I played any other instrument.

Last edited by ShyPianist; 02/12/19 05:13 AM.

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Re: Sojin upright - is it doomed? [Re: ShyPianist] #2813999
02/12/19 09:35 AM
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I've gone the way of starting out humble with my piano playing adventures and climbing the ladder to better and better instruments. I've also learned that some members here will criticize a certain name brand just because, without ever seeing and playing that particular instrument. I've also learned that you can't paint a certain brand with a broad brush that says all of them are trash, or all of them are fantastic. There are exceptions to every rule, and some of the best brands in the world can have inherent problems that can't be rectified; they call them lemons where I'm from, and that's not the name brand. smile

So, with that said, I would get an independent tech, hopefully as unbiased as possible, to evaluate the piano for you and give you their opinion. It does indeed sound to me like the dealer may not have done your family justice with the trade-in, but it is not my place to judge without all the facts.

If it will hold a tuning for a while, and is playable, you may want to just keep it till you can do better. It cost money to trade-up, every time, and in some cases, a lot of money. Your suggestion about getting a digital with a good action may well be a better option for you. But that will cost you as well. Thing is, if you get the digital, you can start saving the money you'd spend on tunings, toward a better acoustic piano. And, regardless of how good a piano is, there is always a better one to be had, and at a higher cost of course...

Just my .02 (which costs .00 smile )

Rick


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Re: Sojin upright - is it doomed? [Re: ShyPianist] #2814058
02/12/19 12:23 PM
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I agree with Rickster .Keep it take your time and look around till something else comes up .I am happy you are back to playing again !
Making music is the main thing .

Re: Sojin upright - is it doomed? [Re: ShyPianist] #2814225
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Originally Posted by ShyPianist
My very first post on this forum (only this last weekend!) was to ask about digital pianos as I tried to figure out if that would be a viable alternative for me. I’m wondering if a digital with a decent action might actually be better for my technique.

It could even be better for your technique depend on the digital in question and the acoustic you are comparing that digital too.


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Re: Sojin upright - is it doomed? [Re: ShyPianist] #2814574
02/13/19 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyPianist
I’ve already figured that it doesn’t hold its tune terribly well


Ask your tuner about giving it a cyanoacrylate treatment -- inexpensive, and well worth doing if you want to sell it.


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Re: Sojin upright - is it doomed? [Re: ShyPianist] #2814700
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It sounds like something I should use .,especially for the days I feel I
do not have the same amount GO as I used to .


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