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New R.S. William and Sons piano #2810337
02/03/19 08:22 PM
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I just got a upright piano made by R.S. William and Sons Co. Ltd. I was wondering when it was made, and how much it's worth. The serial number is 18159.
Any input will be highly appreciated!
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Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2810342
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Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2810344
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Quoting from PPA:

WILLIAMS PIANO CO., Est. 1873 in Oshawa, Canada. Richard Sugden Williams took control of the Canada Organ & Piano Co. in 1888. In 1909 the firm became known as R. S. Williams & Sons Ltd.[...] By 1932 the factory had shut down.

The serial number 18159 places the manufacture date between 1898 and 1900. That is curious since the name R. S. Williams & Sons Ltd. wasn't used before 1909.

Given the age of the piano and its (apparent) lack of pedigree, I would say that the piano has little monetary value. There are virtually thousands of upright pianos from the beginning of the last century from many companies now defunct that are deemed without value. That doesn't mean that there may be no musical life left in the piano you have acquired; it just means that it may have no market value.

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Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2810345
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Probably made 1898. Probably would be difficult to sell at any price.


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Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2810552
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It's pre 20th century.

Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2810613
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I love that piano as furniture. Was it a player piano at one time?

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Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2810979
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That'll be a fine piano. I own one of the same vintage myself. Problem is the lower tenor strings are steel wound! They'll need replacing as by now they'll be dull, unlike copper.

Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: chopin_r_us] #2810991
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Plus the felts are likely to have compressed and hardened, the bridle straps deteriorated, and the springs weakened and fatigued.


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Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2811502
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In their day as good as any Steinway in my book.

Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: chopin_r_us] #2811659
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You were not around in the day of that piano, however.


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Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2811945
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Ah, but around for it's sunset years!

Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: chopin_r_us] #2811990
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Originally Posted by chopin_r_us
In their day as good as any Steinway in my book.


How were you able to get your hands on a vintage (?) Canadian piano?

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Re: New R.S. William and Sons piano [Re: IAmThePianoMan] #2812430
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In Canada?


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