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Re: Digital Piano wired to laptop for skype?
Tyrone Slothrop #2802702 01/16/19 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by arc7urus
[quote=Tyrone Slothrop]BTW, I also downsampled and converted the audio stream to mono before feeding it into skype. If this is not done, skype will internally convert the audio stream and this may be another source of echo, pops and clicks.

How did/do you do that? BTW you on Windows or Mac?


Windows. I did this a while ago (and not for me) but the setup was relatively straightforward. I also tested different options. One was to stream the line-out of the DP directly into skype, but this caused issues due to ground-loop noise. The other option was streaming the output of pianoteq (controlled via USB MIDI) into skype. I also mixed in the audio from an headset into skype. The quality of the non-voice audio was not that good due to the compression, but it works. Other audio/video streaming platforms (like zoom) might do a better job.

Anyway, I basically used virtual cables and virtualmeeter. I also tried to use a DAW to EQ and filter the audio as an attempt to make it sound a little better over skype, but it was not worth the hassle. The workflow was something like this:
- line-out of the DP to the line-in of a Windows PC
- optional: line-in into a DAW to EQ the audio (you can convert the audio to mono here)
- DAW output/line-in into Voicemeeter + add additional input sources like the mic
- Voicemeeter output set to mono and to a low sample rate (voicemeeter will convert accordingly)
- Voicemeeter output into a virtual cable input
- Virtual cable output as the skype input

If you are serious about streaming audio with higher quality you can have a look at software like http://www.icecast.org/

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm interested in this thread too. I have a similar situation, only I want to use a VST too, which complicates matters slightly...



Just a quick update,

After trying for ages to get a VSTi to route through Skype, I realised that the solution was sitting right there on my desk!
I have a Komplete Audio 6 interface, so by running the VST piano in Cubase, and routing Cubase outputs to inputs 3 and 4, then connecting the interface outputs 3/4 into a spare channel on my audio mixer, routing the mixer outputs into channels 1/2 on the Komplete Audio 6 and selecting the interface for both 'mic' and 'speakers' in Skype, it all worked. However, I am now preferring Zoom.us for this purpose, as it has the ability to stream in stereo, as opposed to Skype's mono.
I believe there are several multi-channel audio interfaces, which have a 'loopback' feature, but in my case, physical cables are doing the job.


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Re: Digital Piano wired to laptop for skype?
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Originally Posted by R0B
After trying for ages to get a VSTi to route through Skype, I realised that the solution was sitting right there on my desk!
I have a Komplete Audio 6 interface, so by running the VST piano in Cubase, and routing Cubase outputs to inputs 3 and 4, then connecting the interface outputs 3/4 into a spare channel on my audio mixer, routing the mixer outputs into channels 1/2 on the Komplete Audio 6 and selecting the interface for both 'mic' and 'speakers' in Skype, it all worked.

Thanks R0B for the update! Very interesting approach.

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However, I am now preferring Zoom.us for this purpose, as it has the ability to stream in stereo, as opposed to Skype's mono.

Yes, I just started using Zoom for the piano lessons I am taking. It looks very powerful compared to Skype. Especially appreciate that it's possible to set Zoom to "preserve original sound" so that all compression and audio processing is eliminated, and also to turn off the automatic sound level adjustment - being able to turn off these two "features" wink seem to have been added for musicians smile

Originally Posted by R0B
I believe there are several multi-channel audio interfaces, which have a 'loopback' feature, but in my case, physical cables are doing the job.

Looks like I should find a multichannel audio interface with a loopback if I can. Any suggestions, anyone? I want to be able to route microphone and VST input into Zoom and headphone output out of Zoom, which as you indicated above, is trickier than it sounds to prevent a traffic collision.


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