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Yamaha GranTouch DGT2A values
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How can I establish a rough price for a second hand black baby grand Yamaha GranTouch 2002 make, Japan.
Ive not come across any for sale so its impossible to estimate, although Im told that it cost around £2000 when new.

Its in good condition as far as I can tell,but Ive not yet tested the MIDI device to check if its ok.

Piano works fine but hasn't been serviced in years.

Any advice welcome.


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Originally Posted by Patrick015
although Im told that it cost around £2000 when new.

I doubt that it was so cheap when new.

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You can check completed listings on eBay to get a rough idea.

Since the GranTouch had a real grand action, if it works it should still be worth something. I've seen used listings for well over $2k (closer to $3-4k) but no idea if they've sold.


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I suspect that it was sold at a big discount and the shop in question has since gone bust!


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So, it's a niche product to be sure. Not many people will be familiar with a "Yamaha GranTouch." But it has a lot going for it, from a real grand action to optical contactless sensors. Between the different GranTouch versions, I would actually put it up for between $2000-3000 USD as a start, to see if anyone bites. That's under the going price for a used AvantGrand N1 (which I imagine is the GranTouch's main competition) and someone who knows what it's about may want it for its value as a MIDI controller...If that doesn't work, anything over $1000-1500 is a win. It's a heavy unit and really needs true piano movers to ship it to its destination.


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That's very helpful info, I had in mind a price of around $3000.


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32-note stereo polyphony would be a deal-breaker for me. That and 2002 sounds, and I honestly wouldn't even pay $1000 for it. Maybe that's just me, though.


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Originally Posted by karvala
32-note stereo polyphony would be a deal-breaker for me. That and 2002 sounds, and I honestly wouldn't even pay $1000 for it. Maybe that's just me, though.

It could interest me as a nice controller, if it feels like the N1 I have tried. Since I have a PC with virtual pianos around there, the old sound generator wouldn’t be a problem.

However, the main issue would be the risk of being unable to repair it if it goes out of order.


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Originally Posted by Frédéric L

It could interest me as a nice controller, if it feels like the N1 I have tried. Since I have a PC with virtual pianos around there, the old sound generator wouldn’t be a problem.


Exactly what I am doing. I bought the GranTouch in 2008, when it was already outdated somehow. Nevertheless, limited polyphony wasn't an issue at all. And since a few years I am using it in combination with different virtual pianos. Due to the grand action its really an excellent controller and I hope it will stay with me for some more years.

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Originally Posted by karvala
32-note stereo polyphony would be a deal-breaker for me. That and 2002 sounds, and I honestly wouldn't even pay $1000 for it. Maybe that's just me, though.


I doubt anyone buying a GranTouch today would be using the internal sound generator. Hook it up to a VST and the polyphony issue goes away.
Originally Posted by Frédéric L

It could interest me as a nice controller, if it feels like the N1 I have tried. Since I have a PC with virtual pianos around there, the old sound generator wouldn’t be a problem.

However, the main issue would be the risk of being unable to repair it if it goes out of order.


I'm curious about the feel as well. It has a grand action, but a very short pivot compared to the AGs.

I think Dave Horne mentioned that the optical emitters (LEDs) or sensors have a tendency to fail after a decade or more, that's probably the main risk...


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Originally Posted by karvala
32-note stereo polyphony would be a deal-breaker for me. That and 2002 sounds, and I honestly wouldn't even pay $1000 for it. Maybe that's just me, though.


I've made my living solely from playing and bought a GranTouch around 20 years ago. I ___never___ noticed any notes dropping out.

Here in the Netherlands I can't count the number of times I've seen the GranTouch on programs.

Use your ears when making musical decisions, don't read the numbers. smile


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