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How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? #2802013
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Some topics pop up quite often . Mostly they last a few weeks and then reviving a cadaver is frowned upon .But even if I read all the past topics and ask my version on the same topic the frowning will begin again .

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Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: Jt2nd] #2802058
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Don't be afraid of necromancy.

We all do it here, but instead of connecting with the spirits of dead relatives we prefer to connecting with the souls of dead composers. And instead of cheap ouija boards we prefer to press buttons on the expensive wooden contraptions with metal strings and other parts inside.

If you revive an old thread it at least clearly shows that you did your homework and researched possible answers before posting your request for clarifications.

If somebody complains about "thread necro" just ignore it; or if you have to tell them to go back to reddit or whatever other stone they normally crawl under.

Most of readers come to this forum from the search engine hits, so it is really helpful to keep the threads contiguous. This reinforces it as a knowledge base not as a medium for chatter.

Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: Jt2nd] #2802068
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If you cannot find your answer in the old thread, perhaps it is not closely related enough to be pertinent, so you should start a new thread with better details of the subject you want to discuss.

The worst cases of reviving an old, inactive thread is when someone pops up with advice for someone who is no longer likely to be interested in the subject.


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Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: Jt2nd] #2802488
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I don't mind if someone revives an old thread.

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Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: Jt2nd] #2802614
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It can sometimes be interesting and informative reading an old thread which, if it had not been revived, I might never have seen.

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I think you are referring to the Bach thread in the pianist corner where you have said that you had tuned your piano to a historical temperament and enjoyed playing Bach with that temperament.
The thread was about WTC but 13 years old and some posters pointed that.

Maybe you can start a new thread and share one of the preludes you play with the new tuning here.

Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: Hakki] #2802772
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Originally Posted by Hakki
I think you are referring to the Bach thread in the pianist corner where you have said that you had tuned your piano to a historical temperament and enjoyed playing Bach with that temperament.
The thread was about WTC but 13 years old and some posters pointed that.

Maybe you can start a new thread and share one of the preludes you play with the new tuning here.


For my (questionable) role in the Bach thread, it was not meant as a criticism, but simply as a surprised comment that the thread had been "dead" for 13 years until its resuscitation.

Such comments are perhaps more pertinent when a long abandoned thread is revived directing responses to an OP who has not participated in any thread on PW in a long time.

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Originally Posted by Jt2nd
Some topics pop up quite often . Mostly they last a few weeks and then reviving a cadaver is frowned upon .But even if I read all the past topics and ask my version on the same topic the frowning will begin again .


OK; I'll bite. Why is this question coming up in the Piano Tuner-Technicians' Forum?

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Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: BruceD] #2802826
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Originally Posted by BruceD
[OK; I'll bite. Why is this question coming up in the Piano Tuner-Technicians' Forum?

Because it pertains to the tuning of the piano? Tuning and then playing a composition written for a well-tuned instrument not an equally-tuned instrument.

Is that really hard to understand?

Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: 90125] #2802842
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Originally Posted by 90125
Originally Posted by BruceD
[OK; I'll bite. Why is this question coming up in the Piano Tuner-Technicians' Forum?

Because it pertains to the tuning of the piano? Tuning and then playing a composition written for a well-tuned instrument not an equally-tuned instrument.

Is that really hard to understand?


Sarcasm duly noted!

Did you read the original post? It wasn't about tuning, it was about reviving old threads. Since the thread referred to was in the Pianist Corner, I would have thought that would have been the logical place to ask the question.


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I wish tuners could have a disciplined, knowledgeable, spirited, considered, and well buttressed discussion about temperaments and their value in today's music market, but, alas, the history of this forum shows that most, not all, tuners have an agenda made necessary by the nature of their business - which is to make money, a living, if you like, and ET via ETD or aurally is the easy cop-out, because they think most pianists want it. This is probably true, because most pianists are woefully ignorant and insulated in their solo lives.

Thus, tuners feel assulted when an amateur, me, for example, implores them to expand their minds, learn something new, offer their clients something potentially minding-blowing. Most of those professionals have fled this forum. I find that sad, but also ok. The attitude that god invented ET and that UTs are the spawn of the devil simply doesn't ring true to me, and fortunately as well to a growing number of modern musicians.

We are witnessing, not only HIP in chamber orchestras with organs and harpsichords tuned properly so that the intrumentalists have an easier time playing harmoniously, we are also beginning to hear pianists performing recitals and concerti in Unequal Temperamments and on period instruments. The recent Chopin Competition on Period Instruments 2018 was performed on Erards, Playels and a Broadwood in the 1838 to 1854 range and is but one example. These are not one-offs. It is a trend that started 50 years ago.

As a retired professional pianist and an amateur tuner, I have the time, and no need for the money, to tune my clavichords and pianos in any temperament I choose.

Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: BruceD] #2802845
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[OK; I'll bite. Why is this question coming up in the Piano Tuner-Technicians' Forum?

Because it pertains to the tuning of the piano? Tuning and then playing a composition written for a well-tuned instrument not an equally-tuned instrument.

Is that really hard to understand?


Sarcasm duly noted!

Did you read the original post? It wasn't about tuning, it was about reviving old threads. Since the thread referred to was in the Pianist Corner, I would have thought that would have been the logical place to ask the question.
Oh, come on! You know as well as I do that the Pianist Corner is the least intellectually stimulating of all the forums. Trivia seems to be their daily bread. The last thing they want is to be reminded of the past drivel they were spouting.

The discussion in the Beginners Forum is much more thoughtful.

The Digital Forum is also excellent.

Re: How old should topics be before I ask a new question ? [Re: Jt2nd] #2804904
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Why the criticism? (It seems that prout has turned up his snout.)

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You should be pleased. I am recommending your forum.

Actually, the current participants in the Technicians Forum are being very respectful and tolerant of the rebels in their group, of which I am one. I am grateful.

I have little patience for the Pianists Forum as indicated above. Most often, when I have asked a serious question regarding music, it is dismissed. That is OK. I misunderstood the point of the Pianists Forum and now I rarely post there.

So 'prout' has turned up his 'snout'. Well, said, and well appreciated. laugh

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I like the beginners forum, too. Shunryu Suzuki, in his book Zen Mind Beginner's Mind said: "To the beginner the possibilities are many. To the expert the possibilities are few." Perhaps that is why the beginners forum is more appealing to even professional players, such as yourself.

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I have just rediscovered this topic that I began . Mainly my question was connected with my difficulty in finding the topics, even ones I started myself . The topic list ,which I can now find underneath the adverts , was one stumbling block . The other half of that penny is the random way the new topic box comes and goes . Now you see it , now you don`t .I can`t find a regular pattern to that .
Is the name Prout connected with Ebenezer Prout ? One music expert on the radio studied under him .He wrote a little rhyme about his Bach teaching to help them find the tempo patterns. "Oh ,Ebenezer Prout
You are a funny man
You make Bach sound
As ,silly as you can ."
And that mimics a well known ( organ ?) composition by J S B . That came from the days when Radio Three seemed to know a lot about music .


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