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Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open #2803475
01/18/19 10:21 AM
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Hello all!

If you use sheet music books, how do you keep the book open while playing? Are there some DIY tricks or special clips for this purpose?


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Chopin - Waltz in A minor
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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803482
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(many different ones available such as this one)


across the stone, deathless piano performances

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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803498
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Fancy! I think I can't afford buying even more STUFF right now (even if it's cheap)... but I really want to... arrrrrrgggghhh.... well, I've a birthday coming up grin

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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2803504
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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(many different ones available such as this one)


That's awesome! I just use a large bag clip, like the ones you use for potato chips.


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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Sibylle] #2803509
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Originally Posted by Sibylle
Fancy! I think I can't afford buying even more STUFF right now (even if it's cheap)... but I really want to... arrrrrrgggghhh.... well, I've a birthday coming up grin

Well, I showed my good friend my music clip (his wife is taking lessons too), and a few hours later, he had printed two of them for her on his 3d printer! LOL


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803522
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Always tricky - I still haven't found the perfect solution so watch with interest!
I just squash the book a till it sits reasonably flat and attach wooden clothes-pegs to the bottom corners of the pages I'm going to need to turn (makes them easy to handle and weights them a bit) and to hold pages I want to keep together. On my DP I can attach the pegs to the sides of the book to hold it flat against the music rest, but on the piano it's a bit more fiddly and I have to use the metal 'music holders' and kind of juggle the pegs with them and that isn't so satisfactory.
The clips in the photo look good, but I'm not sure that they wouldn't be a nuisance when turning pages part way through playing something.


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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803532
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I use book weights designed for libraries--can't recall where I got them, but they're something like this: https://www.talasonline.com/Bag-Weights?quantity=1&weight=108

They do get a bit grubby. I notice some places sell covers for them, which would be a good idea. They work well for scores of moderate weight; really thick books overpower them. I like them because they don't get in the way of page turning.


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Schubert, Op. 90 no. 2
Sinding, Frühlingsrauschen (Rustle of Spring)
Beethoven, Sonata no. 14 in C# minor (Moonlight)
Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803536
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I have 2 large (3”) paper clips that came in xmas crackers. They work well for the slimmer books.

Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803537
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I use legal size clip boards. But I don't play anything long enough to need page turns, so like the pictured gold clip, they won't work for that.


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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803551
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The clip is fine until you have to turn the page.


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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: John305] #2803555
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Originally Posted by John305
The clip is fine until you have to turn the page.


Exactly. I guess those who use them don't turn pages.

Regards,


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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803576
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I've had a clip like the one Tyrone posted since I was a little kid. As John305 stated, "fine until you have to turn the page."

For keeping books open, I prefer to acquire editions that sit open on their own. My favorites (so far) are the Henle clothbound. I love my Henle editions of the WTC and Beethoven Sonatas. I made the mistake of trying to save some money and bought a mediocre Alfred edition of some Brahms - it only sits open after some serious violence to the book's spine. (If I intended to play anything other than one exam piece out of the book I would take it to get it spiral-bound, but that would cost more than I paid for the book!)

As for page turns, I try to avoid them as much as possible. I like music that fits on two or three pages. For three pages (of music that I have as PDFs), I make tri-folds using a binding machine and two 1/4" combs. I find them very effective. My wife has suggested that I experiment with quadri-folds, but so far I've managed to avoid them. I fear a quadri-fold would be unweildly.

For longer pieces (Beethoven sonata movements in my case) I just memorize them. (Not an appropriate solution for everyone, of course.)


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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: BruceD] #2803586
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by John305
The clip is fine until you have to turn the page.


Exactly. I guess those who use them don't turn pages.

You can clip the first and last pages of the piece and let the other pages in between loose.


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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Qazsedcft] #2803595
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Originally Posted by Qazsedcft
Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by John305
The clip is fine until you have to turn the page.


Exactly. I guess those who use them don't turn pages.

You can clip the first and last pages of the piece and let the other pages in between loose.

Yep - that! (...says the guy who only reads two pages of music blush )


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803600
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I love these, and yes, I’m enough of a beginner that page turns are not an issue... but enough of a hippie that playing non-piano instruments outdoors in the breeze is.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EEJAVM/


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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803602
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I also go to the copy store to have “perfect” (glue) bindings sawn off and replced with coil bindings, which lie flat on music stands and make page turns easy.

Perfect binding on sheet music is an abomination.

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Re: Clip or similar to keep sheet music books open [Re: Artur Gajewski] #2803617
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Henle editions (and a few other good quality publishers) stay open without too much trouble. Others--not so much. I like most of the Alfred publications, but they don't stay open worth a darn and none of the devices one can come up with really work all that well. I get them coil-bound at the local Office Max ($4 to $5) and I'm good to go.


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