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Re: Yamaha P-515 sound, firmware 1.01 [Re: MeM] #2801302
01/12/19 03:11 PM
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I think I figured this one out, I had the same experience and it drove me crazy!

Try changing Voice Edit > Touch Sensitivity to 100 (on all Voices!!). The default 64 sounds anemic and horrible, for some reason honky tonk is the least affected at 64, but even on that one changing to 100 makes a huge difference!

Also playing with the Volume within the Function menu can help as well, but touch sensitivity seems to be the #1 offender!

I've also learned that the midi output is very weird, with Note On peaking at 64 (instead of 127) and Note Off taking the 65-127 range. In Logic this can be addressed with the midi Velocity Processing plugin, but the out of the box settings are extremely weird / suboptimal!

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Re: Yamaha P-515 sound, firmware 1.01 [Re: kensdavid] #2801332
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Originally Posted by kensdavid
I've also learned that the midi output is very weird, with Note On peaking at 64 (instead of 127) and Note Off taking the 65-127 range. In Logic this can be addressed with the midi Velocity Processing plugin, but the out of the box settings are extremely weird / suboptimal!

Can someone reproduce this? This is clearly a defect.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 sound, firmware 1.01 [Re: MeM] #2801427
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Originally Posted by JoeT

Can someone reproduce this? This is clearly a defect.

I just tried reproducing and wound up getting higher than 64, using midi monitor looks more like a 90ish limit.

Cross posting from another thread:
Here's a screen grab of the P515 in Logic (seems to go up to around 80 today, single notes top out around 100): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BJfto21fc0

Here's the P515 recording midi notes directly with Midi Monitor - shows that banging as hard as I can does not produce values over 90! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFJ1ANpO21g

Here's a Nektar Impact GX61 midi controller - very easy to get low values and high values (but impossible to get nuanced control): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Pf37B5nUw

Quick updates:
Just did Factory Reset - no change.
Just tried Fixed Velocity on the keyboard settings - this does indeed allow fixed values from the keyboard up to 127 to be sent to Midi Monitor (with 64 sent as Note Off).
Given that the velocity does change in response to that setting I tried all the options from Soft2->Medium->Hard 2 - In all cases the highest Note On value I ever achieved was 100 - literally once, the rest of the time low 90's was the highest...



(Trying to work through this on the forums at http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...ity-just-not-cutting-it.html#Post2801416)

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