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Sight-reading: The Good and the Bad? #2801234
01/12/19 12:28 PM
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Hey guys, this question goes out to folks like me who returned to the piano as an adult (though I studied music in college!). First of all, I'd like to know if anyone who's been concentrating on sight-reading after a couple years still has good and bad days where you find yourself second-guessing your own instincts and knowledge? One thing I have noticed is I have a problem with smoothly connecting my phrases whilst sight-reading at a moderate and quicker tempo. I've even found my tempo is not always stable from measure-to-measure even with easy chords that I've played before. It's not a humbling experience; frankly, it's disheartening! Does anyone have any tips of suggestions for improvement? BTW has anyone taken a month hiatus from playing the piano, only to find that my sight-reading--which until that point was pretty awesome--suddenly sucked! LOL! But, after several weeks I felt like I was reasonably close to where I was before I took a break. Now, what worries me is being judged whilst sight-reading as a part of the placement exam in a college music program to determine where to put me because my nerves would get the best of me; and, I likely wouldn't perform to the best of my ability.

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Re: Sight-reading: The Good and the Bad? [Re: MacMorrighan] #2801257
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Here we go again ….

SIGHT-READING Definition …..

Playing music by reading it from a sheet of notation when the first time you ever laid eyes on that sheet of notation was less than 6 hours ago.

The part about 6 hrs ago is my attempt to thwart arguments about the time period which you may use to acquaint yourself to the sheet of music which is fair enough during sight-reading sessions.

To the Op: Is that what you are referring to when you use the term SIGHT-READING ?


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Re: Sight-reading: The Good and the Bad? [Re: MacMorrighan] #2801286
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I don't see what the time factor has to do with the generally accepted definition of sight reading. That is, quite simply: to play a piece of music that one has never seen before, whatever the results. Once the piece has been played through, one is no longer - by the standard definition - sight reading; one is now playing from the score something that has been seen before.

In any exam situation I have been in, sight reading involves being given a piece of music during the exam and having to play it with only a moment or two to scan through to see what the challenges might be.

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Re: Sight-reading: The Good and the Bad? [Re: BruceD] #2801292
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Originally Posted by BruceD
I don't see what the time factor has to do with the generally accepted definition of sight reading. That is, quite simply: to play a piece of music that one has never seen before, whatever the results. Once the piece has been played through, one is no longer - by the standard definition - sight reading; one is now playing from the score something that has been seen before.

In any exam situation I have been in, sight reading involves being given a piece of music during the exam and having to play it with only a moment or two to scan through to see what the challenges might be.

Regards,
Yes. the time factor seems irrelevant.

Re: Sight-reading: The Good and the Bad? [Re: dmd] #2801328
01/12/19 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dmd
Here we go again ….

SIGHT-READING Definition …..

Playing music by reading it from a sheet of notation when the first time you ever laid eyes on that sheet of notation was less than 6 hours ago.

The part about 6 hrs ago is my attempt to thwart arguments about the time period which you may use to acquaint yourself to the sheet of music which is fair enough during sight-reading sessions.

To the Op: Is that what you are referring to when you use the term SIGHT-READING ?

What in the post even warrants this??? If the OP is applying to a college music program, one might hopefully assume they know the proper definition of sight reading.

I’m not advanced enough to answer, except to suggest that most candidates will be similarly flustered by the exam setting, similar to the “But I could play it so much better at home!” syndrome at lessons.


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Re: Sight-reading: The Good and the Bad? [Re: MacMorrighan] #2801329
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No need to get into a pedantic discussion of sight reading vs reading, or an argument about time frames, he just wants some options about how to improve sight reading, and it sounds like the OP would like to improve playing from a score.

This is something I haven't focused on much yet, but I believe (with regards to suggestions for improvement), and forgive me if you are way beyond this, that it is like reading language. Practice on focusing on phrases, chords, as units rather than individual notes, just as you read words and sentences rather than letters. It takes a lot of practice, with a lot of material, to become good, and while it is an item on my to do list, I have higher priorities right now. One day.....


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Re: Sight-reading: The Good and the Bad? [Re: MacMorrighan] #2801335
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Btw you inspired me - I just sight read The Little Shepherd. Not all that well and not in perfect time ( wouldn’t have done it on a stage) but got through it. I need to do more of this. Then Liszt Consolation 1. Great chord practice.

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Re: Sight-reading: The Good and the Bad? [Re: MacMorrighan] #2801361
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My sight reading skills are the UGLY...


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