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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: johnstaf] #2800977
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Originally Posted by johnstaf
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I pay to hear the music, not to see them shake their heads and look at the ceiling.


Wrong. You pay them to show up and play the advertised programme. What they do with their faces is up to them.

False. It is their duty to do what I say.

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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: David-G] #2800978
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... too many knocked over wine glasses sadly as a result of my animated ways.

Not into the piano I hope!

Fortunately, just at the dinner table.

Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: JoelW] #2800982
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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: Zaphod] #2800987
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Originally Posted by Zaphod
They don't want you to see their fingering for the tricky parts. It's a masonic secret.


No worries here. Ordinary TV doesn't have enough frames per second to capture what they're actually doing.


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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: NobleHouse] #2801074
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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
I wonder if the OP was jesting, or in earnest?


Must be jesting...


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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: JoelW] #2801091
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What is the point of paying hundreds of dollars to see a concert with a featured soloist if you are basically watching a robot play piano?

Reminds me every time I see Suzuki beginner violin students (up to 50 or more) all playing "Twinkle" at the same time in a mechanical (almost machine-like) fashion with every note repeated 4x. When you get 50+ students all playing perfectly in sync, some people would call it raw talent while others would think this is playing without emotions.

Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: JoelW] #2801096
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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: Mark_C] #2801106
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Originally Posted by Mark_C


She's an amazing pianist - and her costumer has used a LOT of firm tape there!

Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: pianoloverus] #2801108
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Daniil Trifonov would be an example of someone whose expressions I think actually add to his performances. He is one of the most popular and critically acclaimed pianists in the world.

Trifinov's playing is amazing but I can't stand his grimacing. It's like he is suffering tortures. I prefer to just listen.


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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: JoelW] #2801109
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Originally Posted by JoelW
Originally Posted by johnstaf
Originally Posted by JoelW
I pay to hear the music, not to see them shake their heads and look at the ceiling.


Wrong. You pay them to show up and play the advertised programme. What they do with their faces is up to them.

False. It is their duty to do what I say.


Of course. Sorry.

Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: thepianoplayer416] #2801189
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Originally Posted by thepianoplayer416
What is the point of paying hundreds of dollars to see a concert with a featured soloist if you are basically watching a robot play piano?


If you mean appearing rather stationary while playing, then I don't remember that many people complaining about Horowitz or Rubinstein, to name but a couple.

I saw Mitsuko Uchida playing the other day. She hardly moved at all. Didn't hear anyone complaining that she seemed like a robot.

Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: Mark_C] #2801231
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Originally Posted by Mark_C


I really enjoy her playing!


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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: JoelW] #2801254
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If you want an example of really weird behaviour at the piano you may take a look at Fazil Say.

https://youtu.be/lmhJ-B8dG74?t=100

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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: Iaroslav Vasiliev] #2801265
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Originally Posted by Iaroslav Vasiliev
If you want an example of really weird behaviour at the piano you may take a look at Fazil Say.

https://youtu.be/lmhJ-B8dG74?t=100 smile

I watched a few minutes and I am already tired of his histrionics. I find the one you think is a very bad pianist much easier to watch playing that piece:


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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: Iaroslav Vasiliev] #2801322
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Originally Posted by Iaroslav Vasiliev
If you want an example of really weird behaviour at the piano you may take a look at Fazil Say.

https://youtu.be/lmhJ-B8dG74?t=100

smile


Hey, I sing opera to my own playing (but no one is around) grin


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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2801323
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by Iaroslav Vasiliev
If you want an example of really weird behaviour at the piano you may take a look at Fazil Say.

https://youtu.be/lmhJ-B8dG74?t=100 smile

I watched a few minutes and I am already tired of his histrionics. I find the one you think is a very bad pianist much easier to watch playing that piece:


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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: JoelW] #2801368
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Well, I have a sneaking feeling that the 'romantic' composers / pianists are to 'blame' for starting the fad for 'emotional' pianists, that and the changes made to the piano that which 'introduced' (well, perhaps) different techniques. I'm a fairly still 'pianist,' but found that to get anything out of the old Casio DP (unweighted keys) that I have exaggerated movement is necessary.
Anyway, my contribution:

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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: petebfrance] #2801378
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Originally Posted by petebfrance
Well, I have a sneaking feeling that the 'romantic' composers / pianists are to 'blame' for starting the fad for 'emotional' pianists, that and the changes made to the piano that which 'introduced' (well, perhaps) different techniques. I'm a fairly still 'pianist,' but found that to get anything out of the old Casio DP (unweighted keys) that I have exaggerated movement is necessary.
Anyway, my contribution:


He is a hoot. I always get a kick out of watching his videos and his "stare".


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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: JoelW] #2801380
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That was fun! I enjoyed that.

Thanks.

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Re: Performers should not show emotion [Re: JoelW] #2801400
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Whatever facial ticks, choreography, flat fingers or curved, emotive gyrations, clothing, jewelry, humming, conducting or any other actions the pianist takes to play musically is fine with me.

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