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music question #2800911
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How would i count the second measure, i 'm including measure after it and before it , in case someone might want to see that,



count


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Re: music question [Re: Jitin] #2800913
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Well, what I notice is that since there are 4 beats to a measure …. each one of those triplet notes is on the beat. (2,3,4).


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Originally Posted by dmd
Well, what I notice is that since there are 4 beats to a measure …. each one of those triplet notes is on the beat. (2,3,4).



Well, that the thing , quarter note triplets only get two beats, by definition, the treble clef only contains 3 beats is what is throwing me off...

the triplet starts on the second beat, that is true, but 2 trip let , 3 trip let is how you would count it, ...but its throwing me off with the 4 beat , not sure where it falls on the treble clef


also i forgot to add, the song is in 4/4

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I would say there is an error in the score.

Can you access another source to check the composer's intent?

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It's definitely a mistake.

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Does this phrase or such-like structure occur elsewhere in the piece? If so, compare them and see wherein the error lies.

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The other thing is the second note of triplet should not lie on beat three of the bass clef , isn’t that also incorrect?


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Originally Posted by Jitin
The other thing is the second note of triplet should not lie on beat three of the bass clef , isn’t that also incorrect?


The error is in the triplet sign. The piece is in 4/4, and in the measure in question there are four quarter notes. The only way that triplet sign would be correct is if the first note of the beat were a half note and the chord (C#, E#) would start over the half-note in the left hand, as you correctly state. Then the three quarter notes would be played in the time of two quarter notes.

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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by Jitin
The other thing is the second note of triplet should not lie on beat three of the bass clef , isn’t that also incorrect?


The error is in the triplet sign. The piece is in 4/4, and in the measure in question there are four quarter notes. The only way that triplet sign would be correct is if the first note of the beat were a half note and the chord (C#, E#) would start over the half-note in the left hand, as you correctly state. Then the three quarter notes would be played in the time of two quarter notes.

Regards,


Bingo! Makes total sense. I had been looking at this couple days between work and all and thinking of it in my commutes home, I’m glad my understanding was on track

Thanks piano buds


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