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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: Gombessa] #2799667
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Originally Posted by Gombessa
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That makes it almost a decided purchase for me and I have a buyer for my ES7 that's put on hold before I make my mind smile


I understand if you might be holding off on a grand hybrid because of your massive DIY project, but if you liked the NU1 so much, you may want to spend some time on an N1/N2 (especially if you believe an N1X may be coming soon) before committing to an upright purchase? IME the AvantGrand actions feel very much like the NU1 (slightly stiffer, slightly shorter key throw than their acoustic grands) and of course won't have the loud note issue at all.


Well, I need a very compact piano since that will be the piano in our living room. Even the NU1X is a bit higher, I like the ES7 style pianos best but the NU1X is so chic and beautiful we could sacrifice our living room a bit. However N1/NV10 etc are already too big. And, as you said, I will feel less guilty to know my DIY project won't overlap with our regular piano smile So, an upright action and a grand action - great!

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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: CyberGene] #2799670
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Well, I need a very compact piano since that will be the piano in our living room. Even the NU1X is a bit higher, I like the ES7 style pianos best but the NU1X is so chic and beautiful we could sacrifice our living room a bit. However N1/NV10 etc are already too big. And, as you said, I will feel less guilty to know my DIY project won't overlap with our regular piano smile So, an upright action and a grand action - great!

While I can totally understand the latter reason - the size reason not so much. Because the NU1X is larger than the N1/N2 and NV10 in both width and height. Only it's depth is smaller... (I know - I'm not helping grin).

Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: JoBert] #2799677
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Originally Posted by JoBert
Originally Posted by CyberGene
Well, I need a very compact piano since that will be the piano in our living room. Even the NU1X is a bit higher, I like the ES7 style pianos best but the NU1X is so chic and beautiful we could sacrifice our living room a bit. However N1/NV10 etc are already too big. And, as you said, I will feel less guilty to know my DIY project won't overlap with our regular piano smile So, an upright action and a grand action - great!

While I can totally understand the latter reason - the size reason not so much. Because the NU1X is larger than the N1/N2 and NV10 in both width and height. Only it's depth is smaller... (I know - I'm not helping grin).


Well, every dimension is important but depth is probably the most crucial. We have extremely small living room and it's a challenge:
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Now wondering whether a white one would be better. The wife said she likes the white much more. And I prefer black polished pianos frown


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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: CyberGene] #2799701
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
We have extremely small living room and it's a challenge:
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Well clearly I see the problem - your child, while lovely, is inefficiently positioned for your living room and has gotta go to make space for the piano! wink (j/k)


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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: Eienkei] #2799704
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Oh, you noticed her! laugh


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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: CyberGene] #2799706
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Oh, you noticed her! laugh

What? She isn't intended to be a feature of your living room? grin


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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: Eienkei] #2799708
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Well, she's so small she can certainly play under a huge grand piano is what I mean wink


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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: JoBert] #2799710
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Originally Posted by JoBert
Originally Posted by CyberGene
Well, I need a very compact piano since that will be the piano in our living room. Even the NU1X is a bit higher, I like the ES7 style pianos best but the NU1X is so chic and beautiful we could sacrifice our living room a bit. However N1/NV10 etc are already too big. And, as you said, I will feel less guilty to know my DIY project won't overlap with our regular piano smile So, an upright action and a grand action - great!

While I can totally understand the latter reason - the size reason not so much. Because the NU1X is larger than the N1/N2 and NV10 in both width and height. Only it's depth is smaller... (I know - I'm not helping grin).


2cm in width and 8cm in height (not counting in the sheetboard of the novus, which makes it easily to 1,20m).


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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: CyberGene] #2799712
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Well, she's so small she can certainly play under a huge grand piano is what I mean wink

Well, enjoy that while it lasts. Mine was a premie and started so small she'd comfortably fit in the middle of a small throw pillow! There are times now when I wish I could shrink her back to throw pillow sized. crazy


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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: Eienkei] #2800386
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When I retire (in hopefully less than 2 years) I'm going to buy my "last" DP and the NUX1 is it at the moment (I haven't played any of the candidates yet so this is pure speculation at this point) but I have a question about maintenance.

Since the NUX1 has an actual physical action system, would I have to get that worked on by a tech every so often to keep it in good shape? I've read the acoustic piano section and the first thing folks say about owning an acoustic is the upkeep of the action and tuning and such and since this is partially an acoustic..I'm thinking that this applies....true?

What would I be looking at for maintenance interval for a normal 1 hour a day playing?

Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: PianoWVBob] #2800390
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Originally Posted by PianoWVBob
When I retire (in hopefully less than 2 years) I'm going to buy my "last" DP and the NUX1 is it at the moment (I haven't played any of the candidates yet so this is pure speculation at this point) but I have a question about maintenance.

Since the NUX1 has an actual physical action system, would I have to get that worked on by a tech every so often to keep it in good shape? I've read the acoustic piano section and the first thing folks say about owning an acoustic is the upkeep of the action and tuning and such and since this is partially an acoustic..I'm thinking that this applies....true?

What would I be looking at for maintenance interval for a normal 1 hour a day playing?


I am myself interested in that too since I ordered a NU1X yesterday. I researched a lot on the Internet and couldn’t find any info about people with NU1 that have needed a maintenance and that previous model has been on the market for at least 5 years if not more. So hopefully it wouldn’t require a technician for years.


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Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: PianoWVBob] #2800413
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Originally Posted by PianoWVBob
When I retire (in hopefully less than 2 years) I'm going to buy my "last" DP and the NUX1 is it at the moment (I haven't played any of the candidates yet so this is pure speculation at this point) but I have a question about maintenance.

Since the NUX1 has an actual physical action system, would I have to get that worked on by a tech every so often to keep it in good shape? I've read the acoustic piano section and the first thing folks say about owning an acoustic is the upkeep of the action and tuning and such and since this is partially an acoustic..I'm thinking that this applies....true?

What would I be looking at for maintenance interval for a normal 1 hour a day playing?

I have a NU1, more than 5 years now. I play every day when possible , 1 or 2 hours. I allow my grandchildren on it too, that can be a bit abusive. When the extended warranty was due to run out, 3 years or 5, I can’t remember now, I asked Yamaha to service it. Firmware upgrade, there was a slightly squeaky key, clean the optical gratings. I was there when they did it. The action inside looked pristine, and I never close the fallboard. The squeak was fixed with some Teflon spray. Today the middle of the keyboard is as tight or loose as the ends, although if I want to b picky and push a key sideways then ok maybe the balance rail felts have some wear, sub millimetre. I asked about future action regulation, it can be done by Yamaha or a piano tech, although it’s unlikely a piano tech would have access to the service manual where the regulation adjustments and tolerances are described; but having said that a tech familiar with say a U1 or U3 could probably do a regulation. I expect they would balk at cleaning and re-calibrating the optical sensors. However this is something I personally feel comfortable doing having seen it done once. Still no need of a regulation yet! Lastly due to room constraints my DP is quit close to a convection heating radiator, and there’s no problem at all.

Re: Help me choose between Yamaha CLP-685 and NUX1 [Re: spanishbuddha] #2800414
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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
I have a NU1, more than 5 years now. I play every day when possible , 1 or 2 hours. I allow my grandchildren on it too, that can be a bit abusive. When the extended warranty was due to run out, 3 years or 5, I can’t remember now, I asked Yamaha to service it. Firmware upgrade, there was a slightly squeaky key, clean the optical gratings. I was there when they did it. The action inside looked pristine, and I never close the fallboard. The squeak was fixed with some Teflon spray. Today the middle of the keyboard is as tight or loose as the ends, although if I want to b picky and push a key sideways then ok maybe the balance rail felts have some wear, sub millimetre. I asked about future action regulation, it can be done by Yamaha or a piano tech, although it’s unlikely a piano tech would have access to the service manual where the regulation adjustments and tolerances are described; but having said that a tech familiar with say a U1 or U3 could probably do a regulation. I expect they would balk at cleaning and re-calibrating the optical sensors. However this is something I personally feel comfortable doing having seen it done once. Still no need of a regulation yet! Lastly due to room constraints my DP is quit close to a convection heating radiator, and there’s no problem at all.

I would expect that the sensors in the NU1(X) are quite similar to the sensors in a Yamaha upright with silent system. Those are surely much more common and "normal" piano techs also encounter them more often. So they may be more familiar with such systems than one might think.

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Thanks! That helped.

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Thank you all, I finally listened to my heart and fingers and went with NU1X!

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