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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2800517
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Just wanted to hop on that "push to talk" thing.

Yeah, no one can use that while playing the piano. It is really meant for gamers. Push to talk means you have to press a button on your keyboard to activate your microphone. You can't hold a button on the keyboard and play the piano at the same time. Whereas, in a game you play with your keyboard, it is likely possible to press a specific key while playing, if you don't want people hearing you at all time.

If I had a cold, I wouldn't cut my mic to blow my nose either. It is for practice, not for recital, anyway. wink I really compare that to practicing at the conservatory: people in the corridor will hear everything I do. This is include sight singing very poorly, struggling with arpeggios... and blowing my nose, coughing, ... My piano is a few feet away from my computer. I don't want to leave my bench, go to my computer, cut the mic, blow my nose, activate the mic, go back at my piano... So I understand that girl. wink

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As for the screen, yes, cutting it is a good idea. Cutting the sound is a good idea too. The other night, I heard when people logged in and it was disturbing.
Though if your goal is to fell less stressed about being exposed, getting used to know when people are listening to you might be a good idea. But I think it is better to go gradually and go for that later on (if interested at all).


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: CadenzaVvi] #2800546
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Originally Posted by CadenzaVvi
Yeah, no one can use that while playing the piano. It is really meant for gamers. Push to talk means you have to press a button on your keyboard to activate your microphone. You can't hold a button on the keyboard and play the piano at the same time.


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2800608
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This is surprisingly addictive. I'll give a try with my own practice tomorrow (lessons tonight, no one gets to eavesdrop on those smile


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2800614
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This looks quite interesting. I signed in and heard Squidbot say “hello Tom”. But I need to get an adaptor to connect “line out” to my iPad before I can play in the app. I assume that using line-out, I will still hear my piano from the connected headphones. But sounds coming from the app will play through the iPad speakers. Correct me if I am wrong. When I get the adaptor I ordered, I will try to also run a cable from the iPad headphone jack to the piano’s “line-in” jack and then be able to hear every thing from the headphones connected to the piano. My playing and a voice from within the app.


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: TomLC] #2800740
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Originally Posted by TomLC
This looks quite interesting. I signed in and heard Squidbot say “hello Tom”. But I need to get an adaptor to connect “line out” to my iPad before I can play in the app. I assume that using line-out, I will still hear my piano from the connected headphones. But sounds coming from the app will play through the iPad speakers. Correct me if I am wrong. When I get the adaptor I ordered, I will try to also run a cable from the iPad headphone jack to the piano’s “line-in” jack and then be able to hear every thing from the headphones connected to the piano. My playing and a voice from within the app.

Tom, that will probably work, but with two wires going between the piano and iPad you may be getting ground loop or humming problems.
Also you should be aware that the signal level on the NV10's line out is controlled by the piano's master volume knob. When I tested this, I found that there's already a decent signal level with the knob at 50%, but if that is not enough for the Discord app, you may have to increase the main volume. Which could then make the sound too loud in your headphones.
I guess you'll have to experiment to see if you get any humming problems, and if the NV10's output at your normal headphones volume level is good enough for Discord.

An alternative would be to instead connect only the NV10's line out to the iPad (I assume it's connected to the iPad's lightning port with an adapter?) then plug your headphones into the iPad itself. Also plug another set of headphones (or just a spare adapter plug) into the NV10, to mute the piano's speakers. That way you can control the line out signal level of the NV10 with it's main volume knob (to get the right mix for the Discord app) and you can control the overall volume that goes into your headphones on the iPad itself. And you have only a single line between piano and iPad.
One drawback that this could have is, if the iPad line in introduces a lag, because then you would hear the piano with a slight delay (with the sound routed through the iPad).

Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2800786
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JoBert, I will try that. I was concerned the sound of the piano would then come from the Discord app. So I will see what I see.

Others who are using the app; I have some concern as to how safe this app is. Certainly, it was not easy to find out how to log out. Which had me a little anxious since I read here that closing the app doesn’t really close it. Why would that be? Since the app uses your mike does it really ever turn it off?


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2800797
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You won't hear your piano with the discord app if you send a line back into the piano. You'll hear sounds from the Ipad/device that you use though, but not of your playing. Why do you want to send a line back in?

Your mic will be on when you connect to a voice room, but you can mute the mic. When don't when to be in the room any longer, make sure you disconnect.


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2800816
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Well....b#, I was thinking that I will hear the piano and “voices talking” through the headphones jack if I have line-out connected to my iPad and line-in from the headphone jack on the iPad to the piano. All sounds of both piano and iPad should play through the piano headphones. No? confused

Maybe I’m confused. So if, as JoBert suggest, I connect my headphones to the iPad, and mute the speakers on the piano, run a line-out to the iPad instead of using a microphone, so that the piano sound is in the app (others can hear it) you are saying I won’t hear my piano through the iPad headphones? If I need to play with speakers on, I won’t be doing it. The Apple adaptor Is required anyway for a midi connection to my iPad. Thanks!


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2800834
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Sorry, I didn't read Jobert's post until now. Yes, you would then hear the piano through the Ipad headphones with that setup, but would there be a delay? I guess you'd have to test that. I use the headphone out of the piano and line out into X-Fi USB sound card, so it's the same signal level. I'm not concerned with hearing Discord sounds through my headphones. The important thing in Discord will be to turn off automatic input sensitivity and move the slider to the far left, so that note decay doesn't get cut off.


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2810105
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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2810106
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I put doing 30 hours of practice on the Pinano Server on my annual piano goals as a measure to combat stage fright, but I have such stage fright I haven't even started yet! eek blush


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2827354
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Apple IPad will not work I am guessing.


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: SAMoore] #2827370
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Apple IPad will not work I am guessing.


I've used it on iPad with no problems. smile


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2828039
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I've been trying out Discord and enjoying it. I do have a few questions for the experts:
- A question on etiquette. I've been practicing by going to an empty practice room and just, well, practicing alone. I figure if I see people using other practice rooms I shouldn't join in because it would be rude? Or is it acceptable to join any practice room even if you don't know the people using it or what they are playing?
- Is there a setting in the Discord app where I can track the amount of time I spend practicing?
- I read somewhere that Discord allows video chats for up to to 10 people at a time. Does anyone use this while practicing?

Thanks,
Brian

Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: AdagioLearner] #2828045
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Originally Posted by AdagioLearner
I've been trying out Discord and enjoying it. I do have a few questions for the experts:
- A question on etiquette. I've been practicing by going to an empty practice room and just, well, practicing alone. I figure if I see people using other practice rooms I shouldn't join in because it would be rude? Or is it acceptable to join any practice room even if you don't know the people using it or what they are playing?
- Is there a setting in the Discord app where I can track the amount of time I spend practicing?
- I read somewhere that Discord allows video chats for up to to 10 people at a time. Does anyone use this while practicing?

Thanks,
Brian


Practice rooms are public so technically you can just go into one when someone is playing and just listen in...when I am playing, I see many names wander in and out. You can send a direct message to the player with the @username command or just chat in the Practice Room chat to discuss anything going on in the rooms or what you are practicing...

To get statistics on practice time, just go into any chat area and type p!stats

That command will show you Discords hours for your length of time playing in a practice room (it doesnt log when you are on mute).

The p!leaderboard command wil show top 10 users with the most practice hours for the week,

Any of the practice rooms can handle voice chat for as many as 20 users in the room. Think if it as a real life Skype call but with no video. When someone is playing, you out your device on mute so that your noises wont be heard by everyone else on that channel/room. I have also been in rooms where it was fun to have everyone rotate playing and just general discussion on specific pieces or trouble spots on particular pieces.


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Morodiene] #2828128
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Ok I must be doing something wrong. It is asking for a server address and I don’t see practice rooms to ‘wander in or out’ of Do you need to be ‘invited’


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Originally Posted by SAMoore
Ok I must be doing something wrong. It is asking for a server address and I don’t see practice rooms to ‘wander in or out’ of Do you need to be ‘invited’

You followed the directions in this thread right? In particular, did you create an account on here which is the "invitation" from "Roe"?


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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: AssociateX] #2828484
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Re: Using virtual Piano Practice Rooms on Discord Pinano Server [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2828543
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Thank you! I’m in now👍


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Originally Posted by AdagioLearner
Thank you!

Originally Posted by SAMoore
Thank you! I’m in now👍

great!


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